just watched this on another forum and it was asking whos at fault here

[markyt]

[GreaseGorilla]

car driver woulda got my fist not my insurance details, professional driver my arse!

[P4ulie]

Just watched that, tentative scooter rider but he didn't do anything wrong.

What I find worse than the hit is the driver emergency stopping & nearly wiping him out again with his swerve.

I would be visiting a solicitor with that footage & having the fat git coughing up for a DA course & a brand spanking new motorbike.

Tis a jungle out there

[Paul Neate]

Looks pretty open-and-shut to me -- the car driver was clearly at fault, twice over, and clearly knows nothing about the highway code. I am astounded that the police are unwilling to follow up, given the video footage.

IMHO, the lad should have called the police on the spot, waited for them to turn up, showed them the footage there and then.

[Zookman]

It looks to me like the bike rider was too far out in the middle of the road, possibly pissing off the car driver. However this is no excuse for the car driver to overtake, when he obviously never had room to overtake. As it was the car driver that hit the bike, he is at fault.
He should have at least been nicked for driving with undue care & attention.

[scouse]

I had a similar situation a couple of years back... Police where called before I could show the tw@t driving and his gobby cow of a bleached blonde wife of the error of their ways by "dismantling" their car plastered in view obscuring For Sale signs in every window.

I was being accused by them of criminal damage and leaving the scene of a collision...as they overtook me so close my boot made contact with the passenger door as could be clearly seen with the mark made by the edge of it... copper wiped off the "damage" and asked if this was to be taken further as it was clear they must have been far too close to me for that to occur and hence must have been "driving without due care and attention to another road user" ... they shut up and were still getting a lecture from the two evidently bike riding Traffic cops when I left the scene...

[Diesel Pete]

What a numpty that car driver was, does he really think its acceptable to put someone in danger just because they aren't travelling at a speed which he deemed to be fast enough.

I would have switched my helmet cam off and educated the berk.

Slightly more sensibly, rule 163 in the highway code states that "You shoul not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake" and in rule 212 - "When passing motorcyclists and cyclists, give them plenty of room" and in rule 213 "Motorcyclists and cyclists may suddenly need to avoid uneven road surfaces and obstacles such as drain covers or oily, wet or icy patches on the road. Give them plenty of room and pay particular attention to any sudden change of direction they may have to make."

Clear cut case of the car driver being wrong imo

[doctorzippy]

Looks pretty open-and-shut to me -- the car driver was clearly at fault, twice over, and clearly knows nothing about the highway code. I am astounded that the police are unwilling to follow up, given the video footage.

IMHO, the lad should have called the police on the spot, waited for them to turn up, showed them the footage there and then.

Agree. The driver is also being threatening and abusive, so rather than get involved in a slagging match, call the cops and report him for driving without due consideration for other road users. HC rule 212 "When passing motorcyclists and cyclists, give them plenty of room" and HC rule 167 "DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example... when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down."

Clearly the car driver is at fault.

[Diesel Pete]

and HC rule 167 "DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example... when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down."

I missed that one and me an IAM member too

[Jelly]

The exit road was 2 lanes, why wasn't the slower moving scooter in the left hand lane?

The scooter rider was at fault, but the car drive was also at fault for not waiting for the scooter to move over.

If I'd been called to that scene (Ex-Rozzer) and shown that video I would've reported the scooter rider and for driving without due care and attention, and the driver for careless and inconsiderate driving.

I know thats gonna be unpopular on a bike forum but thats the way it is I'm afraid.

Impartial and unprejudiced.