Isn't the S10...... heavy

[ZX Raziel]

Try to pick up a triumph 1200
That is one heavy barstevard with high center of gravity , nothing can touch this one . :pinch:

[Nigel]

It is heavier than the GSA by about 30kg....

I have a K100LT and a K100RT and there is a weight difference between them that words don't describe. The RT felt nimble by comparison with the LT. The difference in weight was down to stuff added to the LT like entertainment, heated grips, ABS, some different body parts but significantly almost all of the extra weight is up higher. I cant get my feet flat on the ground on either so this makes the weight difference more significant. The K100RT is much the same weight as the GSA and I feel is my limit of what I can manage.

You trying to tell us that the GSA has a wet weight of 230 kilos ?

The LC has a wet weight of 238 Kilos and the LC adv is 256 Kilos :whistle:

[Zookman]

It is heavier than the GSA by about 30kg....

I have a K100LT and a K100RT and there is a weight difference between them that words don't describe. The RT felt nimble by comparison with the LT. The difference in weight was down to stuff added to the LT like entertainment, heated grips, ABS, some different body parts but significantly almost all of the extra weight is up higher. I cant get my feet flat on the ground on either so this makes the weight difference more significant. The K100RT is much the same weight as the GSA and I feel is my limit of what I can manage.

You trying to tell us that the GSA has a wet weight of 230 kilos ?

The LC has a wet weight of 238 Kilos and the LC adv is 256 Kilos :whistle:

Yup....
Beemer owners do like to quote dry weights for Beemers against wet weights of other bikes

[Nigel]

And that is without all of the Touratwat gear added :whistle:

[daytona-supersport]

Yep, that Yam sure looks like one big lard arse bike.
The BMW800 can be chucked about with ease. That's why I bought one. My first test ride on the 800 was on wet muddy roads and it felt fine, like a heavy dirt bike, very balanced. I gave the bike back to Balderstons all mucked up. Honestly, I did not go off road, only rode on small but a bit muddy and mucky back roads.
Not sure I would treat the big Yam the same. It looks to be too big a lump for my riding needs.

[Bernard Smith]

If I was two up, camping, crossing big distances, wanting something super comfortable at warp speeds (or not), then the S10 is a hell of a bike (thumbs)

Depends on what the bike is for really (thumbs)

[Bigdavesmate]

Yep, that Yam sure looks like one big lard arse bike.
The BMW800 can be chucked about with ease. That's why I bought one. My first test ride on the 800 was on wet muddy roads and it felt fine, like a heavy dirt bike, very balanced. I gave the bike back to Balderstons all mucked up. Honestly, I did not go off road, only rode on small but a bit muddy and mucky back roads.
Not sure I would treat the big Yam the same. It looks to be too big a lump for my riding needs.

Rather un-level playing field comparing an 800cc bike to a 1200cc one. It sounds like the 1200 BMW would be to big a lump then?

[Nigel]

Yep, that Yam sure looks like one big lard arse bike.
The BMW800 can be chucked about with ease. That's why I bought one. My first test ride on the 800 was on wet muddy roads and it felt fine, like a heavy dirt bike, very balanced. I gave the bike back to Balderstons all mucked up. Honestly, I did not go off road, only rode on small but a bit muddy and mucky back roads.
Not sure I would treat the big Yam the same. It looks to be too big a lump for my riding needs.

Rather un-level playing field comparing an 800cc bike to a 1200cc one. It sounds like the 1200 BMW would be to big a lump then?

I had the 800 and as I said before the S10 is not as top heavy just harder to paddle around and with seat on low setting both feet on floor, could only do that on 800 with low seat fitted

[spasm]

for me not heavy, but well planted, i can do corner speeds at 100mph, but most a bit less, and it feels so stable no complaints here

[jonny955]

Yup....
Beemer owners do like to quote dry weights for Beemers against wet weights of other bikes

Do BMW still remove the batteries (and the tyres? :dry: ) to quote the 'dry' weight?

Jon