Open face helmets
- Philiptigerrice
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Re: Open face helmets
No Helmets, is safer than a full face helmet?!
:woohoo:
Ok - go hang about a large teaching hospital - the plastics or neurosurgical units would be best - then look out for the young dafties who tear arse about housing estates on 'unlicensed' and 'borrowed' motorbikes - with zero lids and zero protective clothing - and then compare them to the gentlemen motorcyclists who have had a prang and ended up in minor injuries with a minor leg or wrist fracture.
That'll learn ya! :whistle:
:woohoo:
Ok - go hang about a large teaching hospital - the plastics or neurosurgical units would be best - then look out for the young dafties who tear arse about housing estates on 'unlicensed' and 'borrowed' motorbikes - with zero lids and zero protective clothing - and then compare them to the gentlemen motorcyclists who have had a prang and ended up in minor injuries with a minor leg or wrist fracture.
That'll learn ya! :whistle:
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Re: Open face helmets
So which gives the better level of protection, 10 minutes on a dodgy bike or 10 years of riding on bikes in generally better condition?Philiptigerrice wrote:No Helmets, is safer than a full face helmet?!
:woohoo:
Ok - go hang about a large teaching hospital - the plastics or neurosurgical units would be best - then look out for the young dafties who tear arse about housing estates on 'unlicensed' and 'borrowed' motorbikes - with zero lids and zero protective clothing - and then compare them to the gentlemen motorcyclists who have had a prang and ended up in minor injuries with a minor leg or wrist fracture.
That'll learn ya! :whistle:
I'd argue that the experience increases your chances of avoiding serious injury far more than any riding kit. Put your average 18 year old wearing top of the range riding kit on an identical bike to me wearing jeans, trainers and an open faced helmet and he's far more likely to visit casualty than I am with my 40 years experience
An open faced helmet on an over enthusiastic teenager probably isn't as good an idea as a decent Arai or similar but it won't be the crash helmet that hurts him.
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Re: Open face helmets
I agree...
But put a daft teen on a dodgy bike doing 40mph - and point him at a parked car...
Then repeat the exercise with one wearing all the gear.
See which one requires 24 hour nursing care for the rest of his life - like my mates son, who at the age of 22, in Cyprus, took a scooter out and didn't pay the extra £10 for the safety gear, cause it was "a bit gay". Graham (his Dad) was about to retire, but because there was no insurance, he had to remortgage his house to have him flown home, on a specialist hospital flight, to an intensive care unit. Later he was transferred to a rehab home, but that was so much that as the funding was cut, the house got sold, the retirement was put on hold, indefinitely....
All I was saying is that decent kit can help. (any kit!)
I was just shocked at the guy earlier in the thread who theorised that we all might be safer wearing no helmets at all.
But put a daft teen on a dodgy bike doing 40mph - and point him at a parked car...
Then repeat the exercise with one wearing all the gear.
See which one requires 24 hour nursing care for the rest of his life - like my mates son, who at the age of 22, in Cyprus, took a scooter out and didn't pay the extra £10 for the safety gear, cause it was "a bit gay". Graham (his Dad) was about to retire, but because there was no insurance, he had to remortgage his house to have him flown home, on a specialist hospital flight, to an intensive care unit. Later he was transferred to a rehab home, but that was so much that as the funding was cut, the house got sold, the retirement was put on hold, indefinitely....
All I was saying is that decent kit can help. (any kit!)
I was just shocked at the guy earlier in the thread who theorised that we all might be safer wearing no helmets at all.
Greater Manchester
R1200 GS Adv ('08)
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Re: Open face helmets
I will ride my Herald with a traditional open face at speeds above 50mph regularly and yes some flies do hurt but not as many as you would imagine. The bike rarely goes above 70mph though. With my jet style in open face mode (with a visor)I will go at the same speeds as with a full face. The full open face is not the one I use when on trips etc. A buff is a must though when it gets slightly colder.-Ralph- wrote:Does anyone ride over 50mph with an open face?
I can't do it without a visor, the wind in my eyes leaves them streaming.
Over 70 mph, I can't breathe very well.
What about the bugs that usually end up all over your visor? A bluebottle hitting you in the face at 60 mph stings like fkk. It's not that unusual to get hit on the visor by a stone kicked up off the road either. As for loose chippings....
I've never ridden on road with one, but knowing what my visor fends off I can't imagine doing it.
Always wondered if open face helmets are the reason Harley riders are usually so slow.
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Re: Open face helmets
So your not so much riding as cycling :whistle:dubber68 wrote:I will ride my Herald with a traditional open face at speeds above 50mph regularly..........The bike rarely goes above 70mph though .
Re: Open face helmets
Yeah but I'm just too lazy to actually pedal. (thumbs)Andi_Archer wrote:So your not so much riding as cycling :whistle:dubber68 wrote:I will ride my Herald with a traditional open face at speeds above 50mph regularly..........The bike rarely goes above 70mph though .:laugh:
Should of mentioned that I have several bikes and the Herald is only used for bimbles.
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Re: Open face helmets
No your right of course, to enjoy a ride one does not need speed or the latest technology just a reliable bike,fair weather, a good road and tank full of gas 
Re: Open face helmets
30 years of riding with open face helmets and no earplugs, have left me with very noticeable hearing loss, thanks mr Everoak!
Nowadays I use the quietest full face helmet and plugs.
Nowadays I use the quietest full face helmet and plugs.
Re: Open face helmets
It's been a few years since I rode with an open face this was 1981 on a bimble round the South Downs
I never thought much about the lack of protection but a year later I had a crash where I lost the front wheel on diesel (I was only doing 28mph)
I hit the deck face first and slid down the road on my front. Fortunately I was wearing a full face at the time, kinda scary watching the visor being ground away on the tarmac but it saved me from facial injury.
As in the photo above I was wearing a leather jacket, gloves and boots but unfortunately only a pair of jeans.... cue two displaced patellas and not much skin left on my knees! I still have the scars!!!
The ironic thing was there was an Ambulance strike on back then so i ended up going to hospital on the back seat of the Police car that had been behind me (that's how I knew i was doing exactly 28 mph)
Don,t think I've worn an open face since
I never thought much about the lack of protection but a year later I had a crash where I lost the front wheel on diesel (I was only doing 28mph)
I hit the deck face first and slid down the road on my front. Fortunately I was wearing a full face at the time, kinda scary watching the visor being ground away on the tarmac but it saved me from facial injury.
As in the photo above I was wearing a leather jacket, gloves and boots but unfortunately only a pair of jeans.... cue two displaced patellas and not much skin left on my knees! I still have the scars!!!
The ironic thing was there was an Ambulance strike on back then so i ended up going to hospital on the back seat of the Police car that had been behind me (that's how I knew i was doing exactly 28 mph)
Don,t think I've worn an open face since
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roberteagle6
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Re: Open face helmets
Hi, I had a nasty off a few years ago - hit the deck at about 50mph, 3 days in hospital with bruised lungs. I was wearing an open face but the visor was full length - wow - it was almost shredded on the tarmac, but I had just a small abrasion on the chin. I still ride with one and I also use the Shark Evoline again mostly with chin guard up.
