EU. In or out?

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Alan29 wrote:Feeling genuinely sorry for the country at the moment.
More divided than at any time in my 66 years. Politicians less connected to the electorate than ever in my lifetime. Totally absorbed in their own political battles while the country is leaderless. Leaders who have led us through the exit door on the back of lies and with zero preparation for what might happen if we leave.
Meanwhile none of them are listening to the voters in those areas that voted out to give them a good kicking as much as anything else.
We deserve better.



Quite right - the country is tearing itself apart ,with all political parties trying to make ground out of this. how can we be in a good position to negotiate without being united. The knives should be put away and people should start to think of the good of the united kingdom.
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I've made no secret of how I voted but if Sturgeon tries to block an exit that the majority of the UK voted for she needs taking outside and publicly whipping because Scotland voted to remain in the UK and must go with the democratic wishes of the UK as a whole.

If a minority can overturn the majority vote then we might as well throw the towel in and say we've rejected democracy and become a 3rd World country.
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There's no way out. (For the politicians)

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/articl ... paign=i100
It'll end in tears I tells ya.
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Going to Germany and Austria in the Summer on the bike.
Where can I get my jacket printed with "I voted in."
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Dutchgit wrote:
Jak* wrote:It may not be too late, although much of the damage has already been done. I know of at least half a dozen people who said they voted to leave but now Farage's lies have been revealed have already signed this https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... atures/new
One million and counting and there would have been a lot more if it had not crashed due to the volume of people signing it.
Cheers Jak
Over 3 million people want to have another go at it. Possibly people who think they made the wrong choice and/or people who didn't make a choice at all and want to have a go after all.
Tough! They're too late.
Perhaps making people vote will stop this bollocks.
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The Sarge wrote:How is he a coward, he gave the country what he promised, a coward wouldn't have. Why would /should he be expected to deliver something he did not believe in, would you ??? He could have stood down immediately and invoked article 50 and then watch the mayhem begin but he now has to go back to Brussells next week and face the other 27 EU members to begin the discussions that he never wanted to have !
Becuse that's his job and he was voted in having told the electorate that he would allow a referendum. Had he added that he would run off if it did not go the way he wanted, we may have voted Mr Ed in instead. :blink:
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-Ralph- wrote:Nobody is talking about applications from abroad here, we are talking about people RESIDENT IN THE UK.
But it is a British vote.....
-Ralph- wrote: So if it was a chance for the British electorate to vote, please explain to me why an immigrant from any of these countries, who arrived in May 2016 just in time to register, was allowed to vote?

http://thecommonwealth.org/member-countries

Please explain to me why an immigrant from Cyprus or Malta who's lived here 30 years, is part of the British electorate, but someone from France or Spain who's lived here 30 years isn't?

Can you explain that? Can you put your hand on your heart and tell me that's fair and democratic?
Because they are British subjects.

Like it or not, that's the way it is.
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Alan29 wrote:Going to Germany and Austria in the Summer on the bike.
Where can I get my jacket printed with "I voted in."
Play it safe and nick a French number plate as soon as you get off the boat. :whistle:
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Old Git Ray wrote:
The Sarge wrote:How is he a coward, he gave the country what he promised, a coward wouldn't have. Why would /should he be expected to deliver something he did not believe in, would you ??? He could have stood down immediately and invoked article 50 and then watch the mayhem begin but he now has to go back to Brussells next week and face the other 27 EU members to begin the discussions that he never wanted to have !
Becuse that's his job and he was voted in having told the electorate that he would allow a referendum. Had he added that he would run off if it did not go the way he wanted, we may have voted Mr Ed in instead. :blink:
Ray,
He was damned if did and damned if he didn't , I wouldn't call it cowardice, we can agree to disagree because that is democratic :whistle:
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The Sarge wrote:
Ray,
He has damned if did and damned if he didn't , I wouldn't call it cowardice, we can agree to disagree because that is democratic :whistle:
Yep, fair enough. Buy you a pint if we meet up one day. (thumbs)
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