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I did a little bit of research on weights--always contentious as you HAVE to know what they are quoting--wet or dry--and as I said right at the start of this thread! Now a 2009 KLR650 (accepting that its not the current offering , but little has changed) is 176 kg DRY and 196 kg WET--so I reckon the recent quoted weight is WET at 209 kg. However, going back to the dry weight I would say that its about 20 kg heavier than an old DR650 (comparing eggs with eggs)--but it comes with a really decent rear rack, big tank, proper cockpit and so on--and probably a heavier exhaust with Cat and reduced sound level (and all the US emissions add ons like carbon evap can). If you also note the difference between wet and dry remember that it carries 6.1 US gallons of fuel, ---probably nearly double that of a DR 650, its also water cooled. Accepted that its a steel frame with no real attempt at weight saving its bound to be a bit heavier than a PR7--different applications really--and different prices!--at least it will take rear luggage without collapsing the rear subframe and so on. Start farkling a DR 650 for overland and you'll be adding a bigger tank, decent rear rack etc. However, all a bit academic for us unless Kawa start to import a few--and you have to be keen to import one from the US and register it here in the UK.

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catcitrus wrote:I did a little bit of research on weights--always contentious as you HAVE to know what they are quoting--wet or dry--and as I said right at the start of this thread! Now a 2009 KLR650 (accepting that its not the current offering , but little has changed) is 176 kg DRY and 196 kg WET--so I reckon the recent quoted weight is WET at 209 kg. However, going back to the dry weight I would say that its about 20 kg heavier than an old DR650 (comparing eggs with eggs)--but it comes with a really decent rear rack, big tank, proper cockpit and so on--and probably a heavier exhaust with Cat and reduced sound level (and all the US emissions add ons like carbon evap can). If you also note the difference between wet and dry remember that it carries 6.1 US gallons of fuel, ---probably nearly double that of a DR 650, its also water cooled. Accepted that its a steel frame with no real attempt at weight saving its bound to be a bit heavier than a PR7--different applications really--and different prices!--at least it will take rear luggage without collapsing the rear subframe and so on. Start farkling a DR 650 for overland and you'll be adding a bigger tank, decent rear rack etc. However, all a bit academic for us unless Kawa start to import a few--and you have to be keen to import one from the US and register it here in the UK.

Fair enough - but at 209kg wet it’s 5kg heavier (wet weight) than a T700 and that is a twin, has a cockpit, 16l tank and cat etc

The T700 being lighter and more power at 74hp v 48hp for the KLR

I cannot see any reason to buy a KLR

daveuprite wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:30 pm Here we go again... It's 220 kgs for god's sake! It's a single cylinder 650! Why on earth is it anything over 160kgs? That's like going everywhere with two sacks of cement on board, but nothing to build.

The Suzuki DR650 was 150kgs 30 years ago !

The current Yamaha T700 is lighter than this KLR and it's a 700cc TWIN !

I'll just leave this here... AJP PR7 - comes with all you need. 155Kgs.

mark vb wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:55 pm

Flipflop wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:37 pm It’s a shame though isn’t it .
SWM anyone?

What's a shame?
It will be a tough, ultra reliable travel bike. You don't see many (or even any?) SMW's in that role

Nothing wrong with SWM's. the RS650 and SD models make great travel bikes - at a sensible weight & cost.

SWM's weakness is in distribution

Crossrutted wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:46 pm

daveuprite wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:30 pm Here we go again... It's 220 kgs for god's sake! It's a single cylinder 650! Why on earth is it anything over 160kgs? That's like going everywhere with two sacks of cement on board, but nothing to build.

The Suzuki DR650 was 150kgs 30 years ago !

The current Yamaha T700 is lighter than this KLR and it's a 700cc TWIN !

I'll just leave this here... AJP PR7 - comes with all you need. 155Kgs.

Agreed!!!!! I have one and its very very good right out of the box. And the new 2021 model is meant to be even better and has a new ecu which should cure the old fuelling issues that were experienced by many.

Looking at the default press release for this one (ie, every site has the same info) it does appear to be not much more than slapping EFI on a previous gen KLR with a couple of other upgrades here and there like digital clocks, updated fairing and such. So I can see why it's heavy for what it is.
I expect this is a result of as little R&D and expense as possible which will most likely give a great ROI.

But that does put me on the too heavy side of the fence. A good point made about it being a bit academic as once the farkling begins but that's still 207kg on a base spec before even luggage!

And we al know kerb weight can be an interesting measurement

Crossrutted wrote:

daveuprite wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:30 pm Here we go again... It's 220 kgs for god's sake! It's a single cylinder 650! Why on earth is it anything over 160kgs? That's like going everywhere with two sacks of cement on board, but nothing to build.

The Suzuki DR650 was 150kgs 30 years ago !

The current Yamaha T700 is lighter than this KLR and it's a 700cc TWIN !

I'll just leave this here... AJP PR7 - comes with all you need. 155Kgs.

But not many are buying them

For every PR7 Sold, I bet Yamaha are selling 25-30 T7’s as they appeal to more punters as a solid dual purpose bike that they can ride off-road and tour on

johnnyboxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:56 pm

Crossrutted wrote:

daveuprite wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:30 pm Here we go again... It's 220 kgs for god's sake! It's a single cylinder 650! Why on earth is it anything over 160kgs? That's like going everywhere with two sacks of cement on board, but nothing to build.

The Suzuki DR650 was 150kgs 30 years ago !

The current Yamaha T700 is lighter than this KLR and it's a 700cc TWIN !

I'll just leave this here... AJP PR7 - comes with all you need. 155Kgs.

But not many are buying them

For every PR7 Sold, I bet Yamaha are selling 25-30 T7’s as they appeal to more punters as a solid dual purpose bike that they can ride off-road and tour on

JB you're probably correct -so what?

You can tour on anything - look at Godspeed for example. Solid? Exactly, equals overweight.

Crossrutted wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:01 pm look at Godspeed for example. Solid? Exactly, equals overweight.

Bit harsh... I suppose he could shave his tache off again - that might lose a few grams...