captinktm wrote:geoham wrote:I can't believe that some guy has had misfortune of his company having to cease trading and his employees have lost thier jobs and this forum has managed to turn it into yet another Brexit discussion!
We all know there are a lot more reasons for companies going to the wall than just Brexit!
Who can honestly say they haven't bought something online because it was cheaper than the high street price,I know I have!
Also it was pointed out that AJP is hardly a market leader in bikes and I'm guessing this could go a little way with a company not making a profit.
As always this is just my personal opinion and I'm sure some of the nice folk on here will be along soon to correct me if I have said something wrong about Brexit (thumbs)
I agree, AJP were never going to make it, they were junk! Many new riders asked me if they were a good buy and I advised to steer well clear. They cost as much as a 2 year old KTM or Jap bike and lasted 12 months if you could get the spares.
In your opinion and based on what exactly ? have you owned one? ridden one ? I thought as much ! There is a very different view where I live, AJP have had a strong presence and performed well in local events with an exemplorary record supported by a great back-up and service. I have owned a shed load of Orange machinery in the past from 200 to 990cc and in my opinion they do not live up to the hype or price tag they command, a point I make regularly with a great riding mate who is South Wales main KTM dealer.
To be fair, AJP were not trying to deceive people, they pitched at a particular market, the price reflected the quality and performance of their bikes. And before anyone spouts off about residual value and what it would be worth in 2 years time compared to a KTM, the answer is there are too many people with less money still prepared to pay too much for the Orangery hype, even second hand, it doesn't make them better bikes. High maintenance costs, high cost for spares and low service intervals will point you toward a ' whole life cost' figure, it may surprise you to know that KTM come out rather poorly compared to its mainstream competition for cost of ownership, think about it ?
Sarge