Adventure Bike Rider Forum

It looks like it could be worth having to me. You can ride conventionally if you want to but have 2 other options. I know that when commuting I would probably select auto and concentrate more on filtering etc.

Yeah it looks appealing to me, just one concern, slow control with no clutch lever. :unsure:

Especially as its that PGM Fi thing, I'm sure I've read that vara owners with it say it felt a bit lumpy or snatchy at low speeds?

Couple that with no clutch control, I'd love to have a go to find out.

Anyone already ridden a bike with it, it's only the VFR at present I believe.

I kind of have the car equivalent in an auto box plus manual control on the steering wheel. It works really well but in truth I have only used the paddles once in three years down icy devon lanes. I like the idea of it on a bike but not sure I would spend my money on it or get the benefits.

Bike magazine did an extensive test on it in the May 2012 issue and thought it was brilliant. They did say though that it's not going to set anyone's world on fire, and it's a bike with a purpose, bought with the wallet not the heart.

If it felt as quick as another bike of it's capacity due to the torque then that's great, but they did stick it head to head in a race to 70mph with a CBF600 and it was 7 seconds (!) slower, with a top speed of 107mph. That said in the real world how often would you accelerate flat out on a CBF600 or ride at 107mph? I've had people following me on bigger bikes on my 43bhp XT600, and say "Jeez, you carry a lot of speed on that thing!". Acceleration doesn't make any difference to journey times, or how quick you are down a twisty road, once you get it up to speed it's all about forward planning and keeping your momentum.

I work from home Northants, but because of what I do if I was to be office based, or change job to an office based role, it would be in central London, 85 miles each way. I've always thought if that happens I'll buy a Deauville (laptop in one pannier, suit in the other), but after that Bike mag review, and the review in this thread, I'd consider an NC700.

PS: Bike mag did note that the under seat fuel cap would be a pain in the backside of you had a tail pack, but I'm sure there will be luggage/topbox options for this bike, and that false fuel tank storage is brilliant, so why would you need one?

-Ralph- wrote:I've had people following me on bigger bikes on my 43bhp XT600, and say "Jeez, you carry a lot of speed on that thing!". Acceleration doesn't make any difference to journey times, or how quick you are down a twisty road, once you get it up to speed it's all about forward planning and keeping your momentum.

I have the same warm feeling inside when riding my RS125. On many of the roads I like to ride and through most of the roundabouts, I doubt I would be quicker on anything else .

Jon

Ya wee fecker...you got me tempted now too. Tried the Runner...didnt like the positioning, to much VFR sports and not enough Alp-like.

The comparison thing is always unrealistic. I heard so much crap about the 700Alp before I bought it, I compared ti directly with a 650 and was sold on the first ride, and that was reviews on Honda forums.

All the features appeal to me for the very same reasons as it does to you. Theres no way Id buy the other brands mentioned cuz they dont last the same in everyday life, DL650 parks beside me at work daily, rust bucket, Yamaha Tenere is about the only other bike id buy, well put together etc but more off road, wife aint gonna perch on that armrest too long.

JELLY: Auto thingy...im very interested in. Slow riding when done on a clutch, should be with rear brake to hold high revs anyway...im hoping that high revs and rear brake will result in the same thing as the clutch should slip itself. Need to test the theory.

I also need to test it for quick getaways and 2up hard riding.

Love the idea of not having a topbox...side panniers gotta be included somehow, rack or frame.

Now...what price my Alp?

Hepco & Becker have a side carriers for it already and various other bits:
http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/bike.php ... %20700%20X
http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Montageanlei ... 3.0001.pdf

Once you have the carriers fitted you can fit any of their panniers

Cheers
Mark

The sweet spot should be where the engine is making maximum torque if its within speed limits B)

-Ralph- wrote:If it felt as quick as another bike of it's capacity due to the torque then that's great, but they did stick it head to head in a race to 70mph with a CBF600 and it was 7 seconds (!) slower NC700.

not sure thats quite correct ralph ..its not that slow at all up to 70/ 80
that of course is where its designed to work to after which te performance will trail away
have a peek at this according to my stop watch its about 4.5 seconds hmy: making the cbf 0 to 60 about err minus three seconds to 60 :laugh:
...i think they must mean 7 seconds slower to 107 mph ..... :whistle:

it actually is pretty decent performance for anyone comuting to work
no way am i trying to say it should replace the more exciting bikes we can buy but ..whats the point of racking up big miles on a 12 grand bike at 40 mpg
for me it looks good i do around 500 miles a week so the appeal is obvious for me anyone who commutes ...blood runs .. couriers ..a working bike its spot on ..and isnt bad to ride socially either
i think its really good in this context

i mean when you look at the video its not exactly hanging about B)