Adventure Bike Rider Forum

But the crf 250 rally is still 159kg wet weight. Thats bloody good it can carry luggage and has a predicted mpg of 94. Might be exagerated but its still gonna be high.

When i saw this i was very impressed and looks like it will be priced good too

P4ulie wrote:Looks promising, who is going to complain over a bit more poke, some weather protection, a lighter exhaust & larger tank?


Only ones I can think of are crf's only, there goes 90% of farkle sales?

Id forgotten about Robson

minkyhead wrote:best thing to do in that case is buy the ktm ..its perfect for long distance trips requires no servicing at all ..and its very cheap to buy as well ..good choice (thumbs)
if i was doing enduros id use the honda cos it looks smart and keep the ktm for the longer trips that need 30kgms of luggage ..makes sense i think B)

I used to think that too but not anymore, you can fit bigger tank to ktm and servicing on exc's models (if not raced) are not that bad, just change oil every 2000 km or so. Watch Motomad movie with two ktm 500 exc doing 7ty km trip.

My little 89 NX 250 weighs in at 118 kg, the engine knocks out 26 bhp and the red line doesn't start until 9k. 6 speed, water cooled , twin OHC etc--a remarkably good ground clearance for a low seat height (see the North Wales video from last weekend). The only thing wrong with it is the very soft stock suspension--but a 40 quid bandit mk2 rear shock solves one end and cartridge emulators help on the front--and I'm about to fit CRF230 standard springs in the front which have a slightly higher rate--its difficult to have really plush suspension in such a compact package--but it will cruise all day at 70 mph on standard gearing. The tank is 2 UK gallons , but it does 60 mpg easily so its good enough for most trail work. It also qualifies for VMCC events!--Honda progress has been a bit "slow". I still like the rallye concept--but could do with perhaps a bit more power.

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minkyhead wrote: .but what has it got to do with the crf250 thread ?

just that it's obviously possible to build lightweight dual sport bike yet honda build more heavier bike each year like this crf250l rally and it's not just heavier a bit, it's heavier by over 100lb... Hey, but if you prefer overweight bikes good luck to you too. At least you'll be safer in windy days.

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robson wrote:

minkyhead wrote:best thing to do in that case is buy the ktm ..its perfect for long distance trips requires no servicing at all ..and its very cheap to buy as well ..good choice (thumbs)
if i was doing enduros id use the honda cos it looks smart and keep the ktm for the longer trips that need 30kgms of luggage ..makes sense i think B)

I used to think that too but not anymore, you can fit bigger tank to ktm and servicing on exc's models (if not raced) are not that bad, just change oil every 2000 km or so. Watch Motomad movie with two ktm 500 exc doing 7ty km trip.

what a brilliant brilliant video B)

minkyhead wrote:your best bet for a 250 duel sport adv bike used to be the the yamaha 250 r but they are older now and out of production .it will be slightly less heavy than your xt tenere which is 227lbs heavier than the ktm and 127lbs hreavier than the honda ..everythings relavent ..
i do belive that your onto somthin here with the ktm B) and your on the money the ktm 250 f will make a great adv bike platform the more reserch i do the more i realise most things about it is right for the job it really does have huge potential ..wouldnt cost very much at all to adapt it for longer distances and it would be probably the lightest bike of that capacity ever used ..awsome

looking forward to the pictures on the build should work brillintly i think B)

I have the Yam WR250R--it takes a little sorting--again suspension--but with a CMS 3 gal tank it will go the distance. Yamaha stopped importing them here but I believe they are still available new in the US where there is a BIG following as they are suited to US distances

Honda 250, famous rider B)