Page 2 of 6

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:06 pm
by Toe
There is the slightest glint of hope with Hillingdon, Harrow, Bexley and Croydon being very strongly opposed to ULEZ expanding to include these boroughs.
https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/article/1 ... -expansion

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:54 pm
by redbikejohn
Just looked, Heathrow is Slough. Didn't think that was London?

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:11 pm
by Tonibe63
It's just a political decision, by The Mayor of London, to grab money to support the Capitals coffers. It is already spreading to other Cities ie Birmingham, Bradford, Bath, Bristol, Oxford, Manchester etc etc as a method of balancing the local authorities books and cover the shortfall in funding from Central Government. It may have the effect of reducing pollution but only because nobody will shop or work within those areas and they will become ghost towns.
Thankfully it won't effect me as I don't care if I never set a foot inside any City but it will unfairly impact those that live, work in or commute through them.

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:14 pm
by Tonibe63
redbikejohn wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:54 pm Just looked, Heathrow is Slough. Didn't think that was London?
Heathrow will be renamed Cashcow (The capitalist version of Moscow)

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:35 pm
by Tramp
That's going to royal screw the ace cafe over...my xt660z is totally out side and m25 only...

Lots of companies will relocate out of London..

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:50 pm
by Scott_rider
Bikes have to confirm to the Euro 3 standards which came into effect in 2007 so bikes registered at that time and onwards should be ok. Some bikes that were registered before 2007 and don't meet Euro 3 emission standards have exemptions, some of them are on this list:

https://www.bikerandbike.co.uk/list-pre ... xemptions/

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:14 pm
by redbikejohn
Just looked 660z isn't on the list 😕

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:46 pm
by redbikejohn
Well its good I don't live in Oxford! google oxford movement restrictions.......

Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:30 pm
by No5
Stupid idea with even more stupid rules.
Which out of my 3 bikes are exempt?
98 xjr1200
05 ttr600
12 te300

The 300 2 stroke!


Sent from my SM-P610 using Tapatalk


Re: ULEZ Expansion to M25 August 2023

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:40 pm
by Richard Simpson Mark II
That's because access is assessed on NOx emissions. NOx is created when high temperatures and pressures cause atmospheric nitrogen to combust (combine with atmospheric oxygen).
Combustion temperatures and pressures in two-strokes are low...in part because combustion is fairly inefficient, with surplus unburned hydrocarbons being ejected through the exhaust port (blue smoke).
I think someone got an exemption for an old Yam RD350.
It's all a farce...there are two NOx 'blackspots' in the new Zone. One is airside at Heathrow, the other is downwind of a rubbish incinerator.
So, why's it happening?
As always: ask yourself "cui bono?" who benefits?
The revenue will go to Transport for London.
Even before Covid, TfL was short of money because the Mayor had frozen bus fares while introducing eye-wateringly expensive electric buses. It now looks like TfL's ridership will not return to pre-Covid levels fo many years: many people have given up the daily commute or found other ways in and out of London.
But much of the Mayor's support comes from TfL workers. He occasionally mentions that his Dad was a London bus driver (although he himself travels in an armoured Range Rover followed by another containing his security details because London is such a safe city and he is so popular.
He needs to keep the TfL workers and pensioners happy, and that takes money.
Did I say, his dad was a London bus driver!
:D