Tonibe63 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:09 am I'm not sure there will be a place for road vehicles to be able to achieve 100mph+ though especially when it compromises battery range.
Why would anyone need 100mph+ when the speed limit is 70mph? By the time EV's are mandatory, they will all have speed limiters built in, which if we're lucky will allow very brief spurts of over-limit speed to 'get out of trouble'.
The same can, I suppose, be said regarding speed capability for ICE vehicles.
I agree but currently we do take for granted that most cars/vans can achieve 100mph+, the reason I threw the comment in to the mix was because the lack of outright speed will be seen as a further negative result of going electric and many want the choice (control) of wether to break the speed limit or not. These days outright speed doesn't interest me but back in the day I did flirt with licence losing episodes
Open your eyes and you see what is in front of you, open your mind and you see a bigger picture but open your heart and you see a whole new World.
Many of us still drive in unlimited roads from time to time, I would hate to use those with a vehicle limited to 70mph. I once rode a restricted Suzuki 600 on an Autobahn, that was frightening, it hit a brick wall and refused to go any faster, not a good place to be when overtaking lorries.
Cornishman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:10 pm
Many of us still drive in unlimited roads from time to time, I would hate to use those with a vehicle limited to 70mph. I once rode a restricted Suzuki 600 on an Autobahn, that was frightening, it hit a brick wall and refused to go any faster, not a good place to be when overtaking lorries.
Those of us who drive vehicles restricted to 56mph soon learn what the vehicle isn't capable of doing, once you've been stuck at the side of another vehicle for a mile on a dual carriageway you learn what is and what isn't a wise move and plan accordingly. Most of us hate being restricted to most things but that's because it is against our will, soon there may not be a choice.
Open your eyes and you see what is in front of you, open your mind and you see a bigger picture but open your heart and you see a whole new World.
If you are watching the "Earthshot" series then vehicle emissions are really flyshit compared to the impact of permafrost melt and methane release etc. At least in the marine world there are ships already running on ethanol and ethanol production methods are developing that do NOT rely on harvesting and fermenting crops.
Seeing as this thread is in the Pub section of the forum and we're talking about carbon/electric/fuels etc etc there is a video that involves real world discussion on all sorts of things to do with modern living. It's a bit long but it does cover short-term plans you may have
Open your eyes and you see what is in front of you, open your mind and you see a bigger picture but open your heart and you see a whole new World.
I thought I'd share a story a coworker told me, of a trip week he took to UK recently for a wedding of a friend. He decided to go in his (wife's) new Mustang MachE. Charging in the UK was a nightmare (he said). McDonald's charging was just about the only place that would reliably work at all. Nearly all chargers would require specific (always different) app on the phone and have issues, from being slow charging only, to simply not working.
The real adventure started on the way back. He started with half charge and left early to get a charge stop on the way. Fastest charging station was in nearby petrol station, which had a long line. After waiting in line with the petrol cars to get into the petrol station, the car was connected, app set up, and he was asked for the number of the charger. The chargers were not numbered! The car automatically communicates the license plate, that he had put in the app, to the charger so that is just bureaucratic nonsense anyway. The server controlling the system knows exactly what is connected, and where. He guessed correct number on the third try. After about one minute he got unspecified charging error in the app. After trying the other chargers, and repeat few times, he went to another station. Same story. Last place he tried before leaving UK was a Shell charging station near the ferry. That requires Shell station specific charge card that is snail mailed to your home. Not very intelligent setup where you can have lots of tourists trying to use the service.
My conclusion is that the electric vehicle scheme needs a considerable improvement before it gets practical for long distance travelling.
Sister's electric car (Zoe) needs an hour on a charger at West Bay on each leg of the journey from West Devon to central Dorset. So it's a 3 hour journey each way (taking it steady), extended by an hour to charge. So, 1/4 of your journey time on a long trip will be spent plugged in!
She has to run 5 different charging aps and carry numerous cables to be sure of getting a charge.
Why can't a common plug, chargers etc be mandated by govt, and why can't you simply 'pay at the pump' with a credit card?
You can't imagine a situation where if you had a Ford you could only fill it at a BP station. Or you had to set up an account with every company whose petrol you might wish to buy. Ot you could find yourself stranded if you broke your mobile phone.
Is anyone in Govt or industry taking this seriously?
I can see no evidence that they are.
She loves her car...has a home charger and it does her 20 mile each way mixed commuter run in town, city and rolling countryside at low cost, but as a medium or long-distance tool ...forget it.
