EU. In or out?
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Spike941
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Re: EU. In or out?
We can now all give Brexit our best, which ever way you voted, safe in the knowledge that at the next General Election we can all vote LibDem and get back in again if it all goes tits up. Sorted! Now this thread can be closed, and thanks to everyone for their views, beliefs and advice.
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Dutchgit
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Now that would be funny :laugh:Spike941 wrote:We can now all give Brexit our best, which ever way you voted, safe in the knowledge that at the next General Election we can all vote LibDem and get back in again if it all goes tits up. Sorted! Now this thread can be closed, and thanks to everyone for their views, beliefs and advice.
It'll end in tears I tells ya.
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if you was expecting it then why ask, or was you just hoping for a bite ?Dutchgit wrote:It's rather a non-answer that. I was expecting it as well :laugh:
all you've done is put negative posts on here and used whatever headline you could find to back up your own desires, then you ask what WE in our country want and where the "Brexit ship" is going without any thought to the concept that WE ARE still members of the EU and the EU is only now putting it's teams together, so no matter what we do or want, we are still being controlled by the EU and still paying our contributions to your failing state.
Negotiations with your failing state will be a huge challenge as your EU is failing to deal with it's own issues and so how do you or anyone else think that there will be a decent chance of negotiation.
We cannot do any trade deals until we are out of the EU as all trade for the last 44 years have had to be negotiated by the EU, so trade talks will be going on behind closed doors waiting for the day we can actually sign one without having to doff our caps to the EU.
my thoughts and dreams would take a little longer than a few lines on a thread especially seeing that all I can see from the other side of the channel is negativity and a great deal of self preservation
as I said you have far more to worry about than my none answer with what is going on within the EU or are you preoccupying yourself with our short falling so you don't have to recognise the problems within the EU
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we fight our wars by proxy, just because they think there has been no major war in Europe think again, there may not of been any great armies sweeping across the plains like not so long ago, but all the old signs are there again, and there is the internal wars going on in Islam which is/will really spill over and cause a "crusader" type war again if the world does not wake up to the issues it is creating-Ralph- wrote:If the link doesn't work just Google MSN twenty signs that world war 3 has already begun-Ralph- wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... HOnOCvPnOQDutchgit wrote:Putin will never invade Europe. But when he does, why should he stop at the channel ?
The EU is part of NATO, so is the US...
Large scale wars are a thing of the past. There's too much involved in the western world to risk anything of that order.
The other thing is migration. There has been too much migration to risk attacks from "inside" in case of large scale wars. There are hotspots around the world to provide customers for arms and testing new technology on that front.
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Look what May said at the UN and how that is failing to do what it should be
we do not learn from history we repeat it because have all we are humans and our desire to control, own and enslave has never changed
cheers Spud
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Re: EU. In or out?
Have to say I agree with you Spud, we do not learn from history and that is one of the things that saddened me most about those who voted for Brexit in order to cut immigration. They obviously did not learn about the history of Europe in the 1930s, when other politicians blamed the economic plight of their nations on immigrants.
On a separate not I expect those that voted for Brexit to regain our sovereignty are chuffed to bits over the Hinckley Point deal. I grant you it may well have happened Brexit or not but it shows what an out of date concept sovereignty is in the modern world.
Cheers Jak
On a separate not I expect those that voted for Brexit to regain our sovereignty are chuffed to bits over the Hinckley Point deal. I grant you it may well have happened Brexit or not but it shows what an out of date concept sovereignty is in the modern world.
Cheers Jak
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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... HOnOCvPnOQDutchgit wrote:Putin will never invade Europe. But when he does, why should he stop at the channel ?
The EU is part of NATO, so is the US...
Large scale wars are a thing of the past. There's too much involved in the western world to risk anything of that order.
The other thing is migration. There has been too much migration to risk attacks from "inside" in case of large scale wars. There are hotspots around the world to provide customers for arms and testing new technology on that front.
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Re: EU. In or out?
If the link doesn't work just Google MSN twenty signs that world war 3 has already begun-Ralph- wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... HOnOCvPnOQDutchgit wrote:Putin will never invade Europe. But when he does, why should he stop at the channel ?
The EU is part of NATO, so is the US...
Large scale wars are a thing of the past. There's too much involved in the western world to risk anything of that order.
The other thing is migration. There has been too much migration to risk attacks from "inside" in case of large scale wars. There are hotspots around the world to provide customers for arms and testing new technology on that front.
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What concept do you suggest to replace 'sovereignty'?Jak* wrote:Have to say I agree with you Spud, we do not learn from history and that is one of the things that saddened me most about those who voted for Brexit in order to cut immigration. They obviously did not learn about the history of Europe in the 1930s, when other politicians blamed the economic plight of their nations on immigrants.
On a separate not I expect those that voted for Brexit to regain our sovereignty are chuffed to bits over the Hinckley Point deal. I grant you it may well have happened Brexit or not but it shows what an out of date concept sovereignty is in the modern world.
Cheers Jak
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Its not his, its ours. I was born a British EU citizen.Redmurty wrote:... your failing state.
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