Loose spokes and couldent give a shit dealers.

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V_King wrote: regarding the rust - UK seem to be the wrost, compared to the countries where they even need salt on the roads for a good chunk of the year. I don't know what they are puting in salt here in UK, but it more like an acid than a salt, nothing is safe :(
I think they mix the salt with molasses to make it stick to the road, of course when the road its wet it makes it slippery and after the cold weather has gone it takes for ever to clear off the roads :angry: Giving my bike a spring clean I had to vacumm under the seat as there was so much sand and crap in the tool tray :ohmy:
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AndyB wrote:Does it list checking the spokes as a daily task before riding in the owners manual for the bike in question? If the answer is yes then there may be a problem, if not then Triumph should replace the wheel.
Replace the wheel due to loose spokes? Good luck with that Andy.
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Mike54 wrote:
AndyB wrote:Does it list checking the spokes as a daily task before riding in the owners manual for the bike in question? If the answer is yes then there may be a problem, if not then Triumph should replace the wheel.
Replace the wheel due to loose spokes? Good luck with that Andy.
I nearly added the words "if it's damaged or out of true" but thought there was no need.

I say replace it because I doubt if many Triumph dealers have the skills to tension spokes and check that the wheel is still running true but that's only based on my experience of Triumph dealers my wife has used.
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AndyB wrote:Does it list checking the spokes as a daily task before riding in the owners manual for the bike in question? If the answer is yes then there may be a problem, if not then Triumph should replace the wheel.
Andy checking spokes is deffo not mentioned in the manual as a daily check or otherwise. Allthough like most of you i still do. The spokes that are comming loose are as ive said before allways on the off side of the rim on the opposite side to the brake disc and are allways next to each other at various stages of slackness from about to fall out to a slight rattle. The spokes on the near side seem to stay tight. I do suspect there may be a problem and as my dealers took three weeks to do the same as me ie looked up the manual and realised there isent a torque value there now dont want to know. Thanks to everyone who took time to offer some constructive advice much appreciated, but i guess iam in a fight with Triumph.
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And I nearly added the words "normally your replies are so sensible Andy" :laugh: ;)

I hear you re the dealer, but realistically anyone can google spoke tension etc and see you tube videos of how to tighten spokes. What baffles me about this thread is the guy is so determined to get some kind of answer, yet on the thread link, Woodys wheels (one of the most respected wheel builders in the world) said use 20 nm ish, or 50 inch lbs, and that would be more than good enough for me.
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Mac - or you could get a quick and constructive reply by emailing Woodys. You may as well stand and piss into the wind than fight with your dealer on this
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Mike54 wrote:And I nearly added the words "normally your replies are so sensible Andy" :laugh: ;)

I hear you re the dealer, but realistically anyone can google spoke tension etc and see you tube videos of how to tighten spokes. What baffles me about this thread is the guy is so determined to get some kind of answer, yet on the thread link, Woodys wheels (one of the most respected wheel builders in the world) said use 20 nm ish, or 50 inch lbs, and that would be more than good enough for me.
Yea the guys problem is why the spokes are allways comming loose and i think the guy deserves an answer for that !
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I recall having a Honda XL600 LMF that had similar designed rims with the single rib on the wheel..
Honda dropped that design after that model (to my knowledge) and I did hear that they suffered issues with spoke problems.
Otherwise,why would they not continue with that design?
If it worked,would have made sense to continue with it on the XL/XR range at least.
I don't even think the design made it onto the XR range of bikes.
As for the twin flange design on the Yamaha...does crud/mud not gather in the channel formed by the flanges?
I wonder if Nick Saunders had any issues that we don't hear of on his ventures with the Y
am 1200.....
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Mike54 wrote:Mac - or you could get a quick and constructive reply by emailing Woodys. You may as well stand and piss into the wind than fight with your dealer on this
Yep that is deffo the impression iam getting. Will know in a day or two if its the same spokes every time as ive marked them. That may be significant. (thumbs)
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Oyley wrote:I recall having a Honda XL600 LMF that had similar designed rims with the single rib on the wheel..
Honda dropped that design after that model (to my knowledge) and I did hear that they suffered issues with spoke problems.
Otherwise,why would they not continue with that design?
If it worked,would have made sense to continue with it on the XL/XR range at least.
I don't even think the design made it onto the XR range of bikes.
As for the twin flange design on the Yamaha...does crud/mud not gather in the channel formed by the flanges?
I wonder if Nick Saunders had any issues that we don't hear of on his ventures with the Y
am 1200.....
There are twin flanges on the front and they are a bugger to clean :blink: single flange on the rear, as old git Ray said original spokes fine just don`t fit stainless, Ray has ridden the bike "FULLY LOADED" so I think he knows :whistle:
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