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Little tip only for Adventure Bike Riders, don't tell anyone else or they will all go there ;)

Park at the Railway station car park, 5 minute walk to the hall all undercover, and its only £5 to park for the whole day :)
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Went yesterday. To be honest wasn't hugely impressed. It all seemed a bit low key. Apart from the BMW, Yamaha and KTM stands, lots of very average wannabe adventure bikes. Not interested in silly american bikes (blingbikes).
The Triumph stand was impressive and I kinda liked the look of the 1200 Explorer but then I saw the size of the shaft drive casing on it!!! How do you ride that without permanently leaning to the left. It looks like they've used a Salisbury front prop shaft off of a Wolf Land Rover.
The Norton stand was nice in a quaint sort of way but then I saw the Royal Enfield stand which had similar looking retro styled bikes but which were nearly a third of the price of the Norton bikes. I can't see how Norton can survive other than as a tiny niche bike producer for people who want to pay silly money just for the name.
Didn't think the range of accessory stands was that impressive either. Seemingly endless helmet, leathers and boot dealers and that was about it. No Wunderlich or Touratech!
Did manage to have a little chat with that awfully nice Simon Pavey chap on the BMW stand though. He even managed to sell me a BMW off road training weekend in Wales.
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[email protected] wrote: lots of very average wannabe adventure bikes.
what are the 'wannabe adventure bikess' ? :woohoo:
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In the interests of not offending other forum members I'm gonna plead the fifth amendment to that question. It's just my view of what makes an excellent adventure bike and for me that's either a GSA, Yamaha Super Tenere World Crosser or a KTM 1190 Adventure (oh if only they had a shaft drive). IMHO
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[email protected] wrote:In the interests of not offending other forum members I'm gonna plead the fifth amendment to that question. It's just my view of what makes an excellent adventure bike and for me that's either a GSA, Yamaha Super Tenere World Crosser or a KTM 1190 Adventure (oh if only they had a shaft drive). IMHO
I'm with you on the KTM, why not shaft drive? I'm sure I saw original spy shots of the bike with shaft drive?? The other thing on the accessorised bike on the stand I did'nt like the panniers they seemed way to bulbus but I suppose most will go for touratech's or the like. I likes the R version though with the orange frame.
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leo-david wrote:
[email protected] wrote:In the interests of not offending other forum members I'm gonna plead the fifth amendment to that question. It's just my view of what makes an excellent adventure bike and for me that's either a GSA, Yamaha Super Tenere World Crosser or a KTM 1190 Adventure (oh if only they had a shaft drive). IMHO
I'm with you on the KTM, why not shaft drive?
er maybe ask some BM owners ;) :laugh:
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Nigel wrote:
leo-david wrote:
[email protected] wrote:In the interests of not offending other forum members I'm gonna plead the fifth amendment to that question. It's just my view of what makes an excellent adventure bike and for me that's either a GSA, Yamaha Super Tenere World Crosser or a KTM 1190 Adventure (oh if only they had a shaft drive). IMHO
I'm with you on the KTM, why not shaft drive?
er maybe ask some BM owners ;) :laugh:
er...I am a BM owner and would not go back to scrubbing and oiling a chain after every ride out for the world.
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The problem with shaft drive and long travel suspension is that it puts the UJs at too acute an angle when the suspension tops or bottoms out.

It also adds unsprung weight and on a bike with a transverse crank you have to take the drive through 90 degrees twice.
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er...I am a BM owner and would not go back to scrubbing and oiling a chain after every ride out for the world.
err.... who the hell does that these days? youve heard of scottoilers? dont even need adjusting :)
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[email protected] wrote: .........The Norton stand was nice in a quaint sort of way but then I saw the Royal Enfield stand which had similar looking retro styled bikes but which were nearly a third of the price of the Norton bikes. I can't see how Norton can survive other than as a tiny niche bike producer for people who want to pay silly money just for the name..........
i dont really see how you can compare new nortons with royal enfields? totally different target market, performance and quality.
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