Barcelona Pat wrote: I´m very actively doing nothing this time.
Your free choice - but don't whine when you don't like the outcome. Fair enough innit?
My point exactly, if you vote you have the right to complain, if you don`t vote you have no right to complain, simples
Because I don't vote I have no right to complain? Sorry but I will complain because this whole affair has been a complete shambles.
Plus this is a country of free speech and I will whine, whinge and bitch till the cows come home, simples
You can complain but if you're asked, "did you vote" and you say no, then nobody will give a stuff what you complain about. You should keep on shouting at the telly. Simples :silly:
I'll just do what the politician's do and lie. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yes Ok you are a liar as you say. :sick: :silly: :blink:
Well after some soul searching and deliberation. I decided to vote. Not knowing who was who, not knowing whether they are capable of doing the job or not and the fact that the main candidates are connected to the main political parties. I opted to mark my ballot paper 'NONE OF THEM'
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Interesting reading from the inspector gadget blog...................
Not my personal opinion.....
PCC elections – stick your fingers up at Sir Robert.
November 15, 2012 by inspectorgadget
Language, as we are always being told, is important. Take this example.
German electronic giant Siemans used to have their UK headquarters in Staines.
It was highly embarrassing each time the receptionist answered the phone.
Here on the day of the least exciting election of all time, is some 19th century language from Sir Robert Peel.
Police seek and preserve public favour not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.
Before you decide to stick your fingers up at Sir Robert, and vote to change our policing system, I respectfully suggest you look at what it is we are fixing, and why we might think it is broken. Here are some facts:
1. We are unarmed.
2. We lock up more criminals than any other European country.
3. Our prisons are full.
4. Crime has fallen each year for the last decade.
5. We are accountable to five separate organisations.
6. We have 200,000 fewer police than in Italy.
7. We have 150,000 fewer police than in France.
8. We have never deployed CS gas, baton rounds or water cannon on the mainland, despite huge provocation.
9. Every single British police officer, no matter how senior, started as a Constable on street duties.
10. Our most widely read police Blogger has no idea about web formatting, especially with lists.
But what of the claims (despite Peel and his principles) that local democracy is needed in policing?
The current Police Authority is typically made up of seventeen members – nine elected members (who are drawn from the local authority) and eight independent members, at least three of whom must be magistrates. In my experience, most magistrates are weak and easily fooled by fake sob-stories, but at least they understand the legal system (sort of).
This will be replaced by one elected PCC and an appointed Police and Crime Panel, consisting of just one representative from each local authority in that area, and at least two independent members.
The PCC process therefore represents a reduction in local democratic accountability.
One view is that your PCC election card is best soaked in warm water, allowed to dry until slightly moist, placed next to the porcelain in the smallest room in the house and used at the next available opportunity in lieu of your usual brand of tissue.
I know these quotes are not yours but here's my two penneth of answers to those quotes.
Answers to Quotes
1. We are unarmed. Yes the Police should be armed just like any other country, but they also need the bottle to excercise their weapon if they had to. Bet a lot of them would never have joined if that was the case. Also the public should have the right to possess firearms under strict regulation.
2. We lock up more criminals than any other European country. Because we don't hang them thats why.
3. Our prisons are full. Due to having no death penalty
4. Crime has fallen each year for the last decade. Less people are actually being caught by the police
5. We are accountable to five separate organisations. Which are all a waste of space
6. We have 200,000 fewer police than in Italy. Italian people can have firearms to protect themselves in their own homes.
7. We have 150,000 fewer police than in France. French people can also have firearms to protect themselves
8. We have never deployed CS gas, baton rounds or water cannon on the mainland, despite huge provocation. I take it you are a police officer by saying WE. Two of my sons are police officers and both ex marines and would love to be able to sought out the cretins by using proper reasonable force, and not pussying around talking nice to someone who is setting the town alight for no reason.
9. Every single British police officer, no matter how senior, started as a Constable on street duties. So they should know better or they have never been exposed to some of the shite that a lot of front line police have to deal with.
10. Our most widely read police Blogger has no idea about web formatting, especially with lists. :laugh:
I would like to vote for someone who would fight to
Bring back hanging, for murder.
Bring back hanging, for drug dealing.
Bring back hanging, for peado's
Bring back hanging, for rapists
Bring back hanging, for terrorists
Bring back, being allowed to defend yourself with a weapon, in your own home
So it looks like there's every chance I won't be voting then
kas89 wrote:I know these quotes are not yours but here's my two penneth of answers to those quotes.
Answers to Quotes
1. We are unarmed. Yes the Police should be armed just like any other country, but they also need the bottle to excercise their weapon if they had to. Bet a lot of them would never have joined if that was the case. Also the public should have the right to possess firearms under strict regulation.
2. We lock up more criminals than any other European country. Because we don't hang them thats why.
3. Our prisons are full. Due to having no death penalty
4. Crime has fallen each year for the last decade. Less people are actually being caught by the police
5. We are accountable to five separate organisations. Which are all a waste of space
6. We have 200,000 fewer police than in Italy. Italian people can have firearms to protect themselves in their own homes.
7. We have 150,000 fewer police than in France. French people can also have firearms to protect themselves
8. We have never deployed CS gas, baton rounds or water cannon on the mainland, despite huge provocation. I take it you are a police officer by saying WE. Two of my sons are police officers and both ex marines and would love to be able to sought out the cretins by using proper reasonable force, and not pussying around talking nice to someone who is setting the town alight for no reason.
9. Every single British police officer, no matter how senior, started as a Constable on street duties. So they should know better or they have never been exposed to some of the shite that a lot of front line police have to deal with.
10. Our most widely read police Blogger has no idea about web formatting, especially with lists. :laugh:
I would like to vote for someone who would fight to
Bring back hanging, for murder.
Bring back hanging, for drug dealing.
Bring back hanging, for peado's
Bring back hanging, for rapists
Bring back hanging, for terrorists
Bring back, being allowed to defend yourself with a weapon, in your own home
So it looks like there's every chance I won't be voting then
