More than happy with what you've said Alunand totally agree that's why I piped up about the rules, they seemed contary to the ABR ethos, I am more than happy to liase and help Brit frog with organising an event.Alun wrote:Well said Tramp.Tramp wrote: dont worry folks something will happen..just chill out..
Maybe it would help if I clear up a few things here.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating and as anyone who's attended an ABR Rally will know, they are as relaxed and as informal gathering of like minded souls as you're likely to find. And long may that continue.
1st question should a Southern France trip be organised, who would be responsible for shipment of "ABR" goods to the venue and return of unsold goods. Seems to be an awful lot of rules appearing now a days cheers Spud
This is only ever going to happen if I turn up at a rally in a van and that ain't going to happen. This was included in the guidelines when we were being asked by members if we would have t-shirts etc at rallies and before they were available to buy on-line. As they are now available on-line this can be scrapped as far as I'm concerned.
My thinking behind ABR Rallies is that they should be inclusive rather than exclusive and we should make every attempt to make sure that if members want to attend then there is room for them. Nothing more than that.The numbers - it would need to be open to many ABR members - min 100.
Not sure what James is referring to hereIf you are looking to hold a limited number (min 100) then advanced payment booking will need to sorted out., though it would be a good idea if a campsite needs a deposit to secure space. No member should be out of pocket for organising a rally if people don't turn up.
When any commercial element is introduced into a rally then you get people attending who are not there because they want to be but because they want to sell you something. I'm not sure I want ABR Rallies to go that way. We've been asked if companies can pay to have stands at rallies and I've declined all offers.1 No commercial links, sponsors or stands what so ever.
2 No paid for talks, bands or any other distractions. Camp fires, beer and ice cream vans (selling beer) are fine.
The above guidelines are nothing other than making sure that members who attend have a good time and that, if possible, events don't clash.3 You agree to organise road and green lane ride outs to show rally goers the best of your patch. The ride outs would need to be open to novice level also.
4 Provide a single page welcome sheet for all Rally goers with details of the local facilities (garage/shop/pub etc) and the ride outs (starting time/who's leading/mileage/difficulty etc)
5 All official ABR Rally events need to be authorised to save double booking clashes.
When a rally is held under the name of ABR then rightly or wrongly I feel responsible for making sure it happens and members are not disappointed or let down when they've booked weekends off work. Forum memberships are fluid members come and go for lots of different reasons plus things happen and well meaning organisers may have to drop out for compelling reasons and when that happens someone has to step in to make sure the event happens – as happened at the German ABR meet this year.
Last but not least; I'm sure we've all been members of forums where for whatever reason events drop off. If we don't want that to happen with ABR then there needs to be an element of glue to keep it together.
And let's not forget the commitment and effort from members who have given up their time and energy to make rallies happen all over the country – and overseas. They are the stars.
Put me down for the French Rally.
What happen last year is the village (people no not the group) turned out and put a BBQ for a small fee and a bar again for a small fee you could buy wine and beer.
Ride outs were sort and Britfrog (who is an rider) lead them and has excellent knowledge of the roads and local history
By the way you did not have to eat the meals or drink the booze. cheers Spud
