Tobacco tin survival dude.

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Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by Willy_Eckerslike » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:27 am

Did anyone else think the survival kit feature in the last issue seemed a little out of place? I know the mag is aimed at those of us that like to aim a bit further than the nearest biker cafe but has anyone ever really been in such dire straits that they resorted to living off the land to survive. I'm not knocking the mag, I subscribed after reading my first issue but you can take the adventure thing a bit too far.
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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by ipswichbiker » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:07 am

I guess its something to do with you cant please all of the people all of the time. Infact you are doing quite well if you can please some of the people some of the time. Some things people relate to and some people dont. I wasnt so sure about the Morocco write up as it seemed to be a list of banker, banker, banker, lawyer, stock brocker. Couldnt they have invited a token "poor person" along. :) But I enjoy reading the mag.
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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by Lancastermick » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:11 am

All depends what you're into really Will. :) ABR caters for a wide spectrum of riders and there are some who have an itch to get WAAAAAY off the beaten track. When you get way off the beaten track of course, and it all goes pear-shaped for one reason or another, it's nice to have a few items that'll increase your chances of getting back to humanity. Even if you don't use them, knowing you have a small kit makes a big difference.

I love the wild mate and camp in the middle of nowhere regularly, but even on foot, I've made silly decisions that I've scarcely walked away from. I don't carry all the survival dudes kit, but it's not far off nowadays and it takes sod all space up. ;)

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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by davsato » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:15 am

i did a bit but im interested in all that stuff too so its all good! next issue theres going to be an article on burying food in the woods for the apocalypse, the best way to cricket bat a zombie, recruiting followers to your cult and "10 easy ways to spot the men in black"

it did make me think about travel, you wouldnt be let on a plane with that tin in your hand luggage(i had to throw away my nail clippers last time i flew, and you could hijack the plane with a fish hook) so whats the point if you cant have it on you when you need it? but bike travel is different, even on the ferries i usually have at least a leatherman, which is illegal to carry here, sometimes if im camping a kukri or an axe too and they dont bat an eyelid at that stuff.
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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by ipswichbiker » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:19 am

I remember I took a full on sword on a plane when I flew back from Sudan to UK in 2003. I think I didnt want it to get damaged in hold so took it on as hand luggage. I just handed it over to a stewardess when I got on. I think they might have put it with the umbrellas. How times change :)
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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by Alun » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:28 am

davsato wrote:even on the ferries i usually have at least a leatherman, which is illegal to carry here,
Is that right? I feel a show us your knife thread coming on.

The 'bushman' feature was a marginal call so both Em and I are going to pay close interest to this thread. We're always going to edge more on the travel, nature and outdoor aspect of adventure biking rather than the 'how to get you knee down in a remote African village' approach. It's one of the things that makes ABR so different from other mags out there. That said, it's the readers views that count.

The bottom line is; we're looking for a good balance of interesting features without turning into a standard motorcycle mag by numbers.

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Post by mark1150 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:29 am

IMHO, It's just stuff; there for you to read or not.
I would hope that I too wouldn't need the tin or the skills in a dire emergency, however it's not outside the realms of possibility that you could call upon a part of it.
Picture a scenario where there's been a flash flood, or a breakdown somewhere inaccessible and someone somewhere might be glad of the information.
In some respects the magazine is a focused piece of entertainment, that informs and inspires.
Just because there are lucky people travelling in the outback on a KLR doesn't mean I'm going to follow in their footsteps, but I enjoy reading of their experiences, similarly I watch Bear Grills, but I'm not going to bite the head off a neighbours cat and cook it on an open fire in the garden, and rapell from the shed roof.
Also going by some of the posts on this forum the magazine is getting an international following so what's relevant here might not be to someone in Cape Horn or visa versa.
A great magazine, that covers a broad range of subjects and bikes.
PS: Alun, If you want to do a feature on repelling from shed roofs, or scaling the north face of Wisbech High Street I'm your man.
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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by Redmurty » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:30 am

I have not had a bug out tin since i left the Navy, but the article did make me think about getting another. I am always being told I carry to much kit, I say you never know what s..t can happen and you never know when you will need it. As a kid I was alway told "carry a piece of string, a knife and a 5 pence piece" the string to catch your supper, the knife to prepare it, and the 5 pence piece to buy a beer after, (yes I know it would need to be a £20 note now)The article may of been OTT for the vast majority of us but if it helps one reader then so be it. It's a great mag overall I am cancelling all my other subscriptions cheers all Spud ;)
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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by backofbeyond » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:44 am

Willy_Eckerslike wrote:Did anyone else think the survival kit feature in the last issue seemed a little out of place? I know the mag is aimed at those of us that like to aim a bit further than the nearest biker cafe but has anyone ever really been in such dire straits that they resorted to living off the land to survive.
That's the sort of stuff they were teaching me in the Boy Scouts 40+ yrs ago so it made me smile to see it's still being recycled. There's loads of books around on the same topic and Ray Mears / Bear Grylls (whatever happened to him? :lol: ) on the telly showing you how to make a tent from a camel carcass etc so I'd guess someone thinks there's a market for it - even if it's only to give you a backup plan when you get lost in the New Forest.

The contents of both the tins are all things (except for the tampon) I usually take with me on "wilderness" trips - either hiking or biking, where I'll be camping for any length of time. I don't use them to survive a nuclear holocaust but just for normal existence. Mine are usually chucked in a plastic bag though as I'm not as well organised as the survival bloke.

Alan can probably speak for himself as to why the article was themed as it was but if you ignore the "save the last bullet for yourself" dramatics of the layout some of the info in it was useful as a reminder of stuff to take if you are going off the beaten track. The sewing kit saved me a lot of trouble when I split my trousers tying up a canal boat outside a pub some years ago. Can't get much more on the edge than that. :laugh: :laugh:




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Re: Tobacco tin survival dude.

Post by davsato » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:55 am

Alun wrote:
davsato wrote:even on the ferries i usually have at least a leatherman, which is illegal to carry here,
Is that right? I feel a show us your knife thread coming on......

........The bottom line is; we're looking for a good balance of interesting features without turning into a standard motorcycle mag by numbers.
yes, customs/police are very anal here, but once in france they almost couldnt care less what you carry around, its what you do with it that concerns them and rightly so.

anything like that in the mag is ok by me, it is an "adventure" mag after all! to most of us it'll just be an interesting piece, some will just brush past it like another ad but there must be at least some of us who are going to find it helpful advice. and no, we dont want another wheelie stoppie mag ta. (although i might be going to wheelie school in the summer, you never know when you are going to need to hoist up 1/2tonne of fully loaded varadero!)

perhaps you could do a survival tin for the 'mildy adventurous', with things like wet bum wipes, resolve, bottle opener, earplugs, teaspoon, emergency fag+match, viagra+condom, that sort of thing
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