TRF becomming Extinct?

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hmmm

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Sounds like alot of corporate crap and handbag flinging :P
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johnnyboxer wrote:
Marionette wrote: It appears that the directors have decided that nobody other than themselves or people approved by them will be allowed to put their name forward to stand as a Director and that no proposal without a director proposing or seconding the motion will be put to the membership.
Scandalous..........is this true?
Unfortunately the minutes of Directors meeting are so brief, certainly in the one copy I have seen circulated it is not possible to verify whether such an agreement / pact has been made. We do now appear to have verification that it is taking place, how convenient to delay contacting somebody and then say we set the deadline yesterday and you are now too late.

Might have to pop across the border and watch the fireworks on 8th January.

One has to wonder if this tactic has been adapted from the NHS where Triage Nurses are being told to send people away if the are not sufficiently seriously injured enough.
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The more info that emerges about how the current TRF "board" conducts itself, the more it stinks.

It's becomes more like FIFA every week :( :lol:
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Helicoptermanr22 wrote:Sounds like alot of corporate crap and handbag flinging :P
what/who made you edit your post. You made a very valid point only to have taken it away?
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Helicoptermanr22 wrote:Sounds like alot of corporate crap and handbag flinging :P
Yep!

Fail in business environment so play at the "Big I Am" in a social club.....
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Marionette wrote:..One has to wonder if this tactic has been adapted from the NHS where Triage Nurses are being told to send people away if the are not sufficiently seriously injured enough...
That's nonsense - triage assesses the patient's needs based on clinical indicators and signposts them to the most appropriate place based on local capacity and capability. The referral endpoint may change due to seasonal (and other) fluctuations in capacity and capability, but there is no national strategy to turn people away who are "not sufficiently seriously injured".
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Unfortunately as each week passes the situation reads increasingly like Animal Farm. I have an idea who Napoleon and Squealer might be, still unsure about Snowball.
While the TRF's future might be the best intentions the means and or the message are muddied by, at best, questionable communication. It is worrying. Members probably need to be a little more tollerant while the Directors would benefit from a generous slice of humble pie. They are very good at explaining issues after the event.
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It appears that the directors have decided that nobody other than themselves or people approved by them will be allowed to put their name forward to stand as a Director and that no proposal without a director proposing or seconding the motion will be put to the membership.



Scandalous..........is this true?


Unfortunately the minutes of Directors meeting are so brief, certainly in the one copy I have seen circulated it is not possible to verify whether such an agreement / pact has been made. We do now appear to have verification that it is taking place, how convenient to delay contacting somebody and then say we set the deadline yesterday and you are
now too late.



Last time I saw dealings like that wasn't it 2006 and called the NERC act !! And yes we got shafted then too ....
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oldroadrider wrote:It appears that the directors have decided that nobody other than themselves or people approved by them will be allowed to put their name forward to stand as a Director and that no proposal without a director proposing or seconding the motion will be put to the membership.



Scandalous..........is this true?


Unfortunately the minutes of Directors meeting are so brief, certainly in the one copy I have seen circulated it is not possible to verify whether such an agreement / pact has been made. We do now appear to have verification that it is taking place, how convenient to delay contacting somebody and then say we set the deadline yesterday and you are
now too late.



Last time I saw dealings like that wasn't it 2006 and called the NERC act !! And yes we got shafted then too ....
There is a thread on the TRF forum which Mario has listed the CV's etc of the Directors elect and notes from the (recently failed AGM that couldn't be push through but only after getting legal advice ) National conference. i read the notes from the conference......

interested to see that the national conference notes are very light on some of the discussion........how long do the directors think they can keep skimming over the "bad bits"

there was a long discussion about the Directors behaviour.....missing
Discussion about Success at the expense of fellowship......missing
What about the guy turning up to talk about economic benefits of trail riding without a a proper slot ( as if the first time was not rude enough )only for him not to be allowed to talk! Well done to the independent Chair for sticking to his guns. ......we need more to stand up to this shambles.

I really feel for the new Directors....they are going to find it really difficult if they do not toe the party line.

The TRF is a limited company....but its main sources of income come from members subscriptions and from what they raise. Its not the same as a private business that has been that has been conceived and built up by the owners directors......the members are the owners, the Directors are voluntary "caretakers" and the money ( even if we can afford it) is not for them to spend on Hotels and expenses when they only live a couple of hours away.

The members are the TRF and are as important as the TRF. The Trf was set up as a fellowship first, the limited company was set up to protect the fellowship.
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MikeIrving wrote:....the members are the owners, the Directors are voluntary "caretakers" and the money ( even if we can afford it) is not for them to spend on Hotels and expenses when they only live a couple of hours away.
I see nothing in the new articles as at 2015 filed at companies house which state that the members are the owners. Can you elaborate please and clarify?
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