Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:21 pm
And the great British public want people like Danliar Koztwitsky to lead them out of Europe...
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Brenhden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:25 pm A colleague of mine posted a tweet from an MEP about how the EU has big import tariffs on NZ Lamb and how it will be much cheaper to import lamb when we leave the EU. Interested I checked up on import duties in the EU and found that it was a lie (the EU has a duty free quota so large that NZ could never exceed it). I commented that the guy was a liar and that it was important to check 'facts' before sharing them. His response was that leave supported have to lie to compete with remain supporters. I was gobsmacked.
I don't want this to be country where truth is not important. I will not sink to the level of liars whoever they are. That is not the values of this proud country.
Genuine question - if we were outside of the EU how would the legislation still affect us? We could make our own rules, couldn't we? I know we'd inherit all the EU legislation by default but we'd soon change that and repeal most of it and set our own laws....wouldn't we?Richard Simpson Mark II wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:57 pm
Single-seat road-legal enduro bikes were made exempt from the ABS rules...and quite a few others as well. No doubt the views I made known were taken into consideration...along with those of others.
With the UK outside the EU...my views would not even have registered. But you can bet the legislation will still apply.
It's a good point, if we set our own laws we can change things. It's very unlikely we would change anything to make them less environmentally friendly or lass safe however.Scott_rider wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:10 pmGenuine question - if we were outside of the EU how would the legislation still affect us? We could make our own rules, couldn't we? I know we'd inherit all the EU legislation by default but we'd soon change that and repeal most of it and set our own laws....wouldn't we?Richard Simpson Mark II wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:57 pm
Single-seat road-legal enduro bikes were made exempt from the ABS rules...and quite a few others as well. No doubt the views I made known were taken into consideration...along with those of others.
With the UK outside the EU...my views would not even have registered. But you can bet the legislation will still apply.
Beg to differ, Bren. If there's a no deal brexit then all options are open. All the expert thinking is that the economy will suffer, the tax-take will suffer and there will be much less money available generally for public services etc. There will then be a rather desperate clamber to do any kind of trade deal with non-EU countries. Obviously the single biggest deal the UK would likely pursue would be with the USA. But the UK's desperate circumstances would basically make it a bit of a fire sale, with the UK as supplicant. Which would mean that the price of any kind of deal, especially a deal with the Trump regime, would be a wholesale abandonment of high environmental standards, HS, and anything else that a far less socially, morally and environmentally aware partner would demand.Brenhden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:17 pmIt's a good point, if we set our own laws we can change things. It's very unlikely we would change anything to make them less environmentally friendly or lass safe however.Scott_rider wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:10 pmGenuine question - if we were outside of the EU how would the legislation still affect us? We could make our own rules, couldn't we? I know we'd inherit all the EU legislation by default but we'd soon change that and repeal most of it and set our own laws....wouldn't we?Richard Simpson Mark II wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:57 pm
Single-seat road-legal enduro bikes were made exempt from the ABS rules...and quite a few others as well. No doubt the views I made known were taken into consideration...along with those of others.
With the UK outside the EU...my views would not even have registered. But you can bet the legislation will still apply.
My tiny glimmer of optimism for the future of our country is slowly being extinguished. I hope you are not right. This is the worst possible time to want to be closer to America. The US doesn't care about anything but itself right now, we might as share a bigmac with a lion.daveuprite wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:28 pmBeg to differ, Bren. If there's a no deal brexit then all options are open. All the expert thinking is that the economy will suffer, the tax-take will suffer and there will be much less money available generally for public services etc. There will then be a rather desperate clamber to do any kind of trade deal with non-EU countries. Obviously the single biggest deal the UK would likely pursue would be with the USA. But the UK's desperate circumstances would basically make it a bit of a fire sale, with the UK as supplicant. Which would mean that the price of any kind of deal, especially a deal with the Trump regime, would be a wholesale abandonment of high environmental standards, HS, and anything else that a far less socially, morally and environmentally aware partner would demand.Brenhden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:17 pmIt's a good point, if we set our own laws we can change things. It's very unlikely we would change anything to make them less environmentally friendly or lass safe however.Scott_rider wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:10 pmGenuine question - if we were outside of the EU how would the legislation still affect us? We could make our own rules, couldn't we? I know we'd inherit all the EU legislation by default but we'd soon change that and repeal most of it and set our own laws....wouldn't we?Richard Simpson Mark II wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:57 pm
Single-seat road-legal enduro bikes were made exempt from the ABS rules...and quite a few others as well. No doubt the views I made known were taken into consideration...along with those of others.
With the UK outside the EU...my views would not even have registered. But you can bet the legislation will still apply.