EU. In or out?

Anything goes, and mine's a Guinness.
daveuprite
Posts: 2005
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:47 pm
Location: Limousin France
Has thanked: 903 times
Been thanked: 1132 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by daveuprite » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:28 pm

catcitrus wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:03 pm
Oh, and cows fart!
Cow farts, as I'm sure you know, are a related but different issue. Methane is not about particulates - it's a particularly harmful greenhouse gas. CH4 has approximately 23 times CO2 equivalence as a greenhouse gas, although it is shorter lived in the atmosphere. This is why waste managers have been trying so hard to move away from landfill, towards in-vessel composting for biodegradable waste for example. Cattle farming is especially wasteful and inefficient. Land that could/should give much greater calorific food yields when used for arable is given over to livestock, which then also emit large quantities of methane.

God, it feels like I'm back doing my old job at DEFRA. Snore....

Adventure Bike Rider New Issue Out Now
Richard Simpson Mark II
Posts: 1073
Joined: Tue May 09, 2017 9:03 pm
Has thanked: 315 times
Been thanked: 490 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by Richard Simpson Mark II » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:30 pm

I wonder if the German popular press kick off when a German company gets EU grants to do things in the UK

https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/sie ... am-145319/

Tramp
Posts: 7115
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:04 am
Has thanked: 191 times
Been thanked: 361 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by Tramp » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:38 pm

See the UK government has just annonced there will be no haulage hold ups at ports.....so we just gave the French how many millions for ferrys we dont and didnt need :lol: :o ...

The farce continues and just who pays ....us poor suckers :twisted:

User avatar
OB1
Posts: 2559
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:37 am
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk
Has thanked: 454 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by OB1 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:42 pm

Richard Simpson Mark II wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:30 pm
I wonder if the German popular press kick off when a German company gets EU grants to do things in the UK

https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/sie ... am-145319/

Remember when we were looking for new railroad rolling stock and the contract went to a European (German, I think) firm? That kind of thing doesn't happen in France. It's our government (of both colours) that is the problem with regard to our standing in the World, not Europe.
A • AND • B • CDN • CH • CN • CY • CYM • CZ • D • DK • E • EST • ET • F • FIN • GR • HK • HR • I • IL • IRL • L • LT • LV • M • N • N-IRL • NL • P • PL • Q • RSM • S • SCO • SCV • SLO • TR • USA • YU
https://ob1uk.wordpress.com

daveuprite
Posts: 2005
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:47 pm
Location: Limousin France
Has thanked: 903 times
Been thanked: 1132 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by daveuprite » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:49 pm

Tramp wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:38 pm
See the UK government has just annonced there will be no haulage hold ups at ports.....so we just gave the French how many millions for ferrys we dont and didnt need :lol: :o ...

The farce continues and just who pays ....us poor suckers :twisted:
Just remember who to blame for that, Russ. Incompetent tory government and delusional brexiteers. Right now it's a bonanza for charlatans, fraudsters, lawyers and fly-by-nights. That's what instability brings.

Actually I think the main haulage problems will probably be the other way round. After brexit, EU ports will need to check goods transported into the EU from a third country (the UK) for regulatory divergence and the payment of any tariffs. As time passes, UK goods will not always meet the same standards as the EU equivalent and this would need to be monitored. So I imagine Calais and other channel ports will become the bottle-neck. Hold-ups in Calais mean hold-ups in Dover etc etc.

Tramp
Posts: 7115
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:04 am
Has thanked: 191 times
Been thanked: 361 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by Tramp » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:06 pm

Dave it's done electronically...disclosure of goods in shipment and a few are stopped to make sure they comfurm...I regularly had my containers scanned in UK, must of been a dodgy looking bloke :lol: ...the vast majority of freight is chilled and frozen food stuffs...high valve goods are sent by sea in containers because they dong want immigrants shutting on there products :lol:

scutty
Posts: 496
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:27 pm
Has thanked: 60 times
Been thanked: 90 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by scutty » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Tramp wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:06 pm
Dave it's done electronically...disclosure of goods in shipment and a few are stopped to make sure they comfurm...I regularly had my containers scanned in UK, must of been a dodgy looking bloke :lol: ...the vast majority of freight is chilled and frozen food stuffs...high valve goods are sent by sea in containers because they dong want immigrants shutting on there products :lol:
It's done electronically now but post-Brexit? Once we don't have the same standards agreed all cargo will need to be checked. At least the duty-free smugglers will be back in business :roll: :roll: :roll:

And regards the JLR plant, that was never coming to the UK, it was between Slovakia and Mexico which is why the EU didn't stop the government 'investment'.

daveuprite
Posts: 2005
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:47 pm
Location: Limousin France
Has thanked: 903 times
Been thanked: 1132 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by daveuprite » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:41 pm

scutty wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:58 pm

It's done electronically now
Yes, exactly. As Scutty says, a simple electronic system works fine at the moment because UK goods going to the continent stay within the EU single market and customs union. The government / hard brexiteers seem determined that the UK leaves both of those, which will make UK goods entering France no different in status to Turkish goods entering Greece, or Russian goods entering Finland. As soon as there is any divergence whatsoever between the UK's produce and the same item as it is sold in the EU, a check will have to be made. Which takes time, which causes hold-ups, which costs money....

(By the way, does anyone want a fake passport?)

Brenhden
Posts: 5667
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:51 pm
Has thanked: 679 times
Been thanked: 449 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by Brenhden » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:16 pm

daveuprite wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:41 pm

(By the way, does anyone want a fake passport?)
I'm so pleased my friend/brother has joined...
And now, Harry, let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure.

Honda CRF250 Rally.
🇬🇧🇫🇷🇧🇪🇱🇺🇪🇸🇬🇷🇩🇪

User avatar
OB1
Posts: 2559
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:37 am
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk
Has thanked: 454 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: EU. In or out?

Post by OB1 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:46 am

Here's an interesting read: https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2019/02/04/th ... scinating/

This thread about the casual dishonesty of politicians and the media’s failure to call them out is a fascinating read.
A • AND • B • CDN • CH • CN • CY • CYM • CZ • D • DK • E • EST • ET • F • FIN • GR • HK • HR • I • IL • IRL • L • LT • LV • M • N • N-IRL • NL • P • PL • Q • RSM • S • SCO • SCV • SLO • TR • USA • YU
https://ob1uk.wordpress.com

Post Reply

Return to “THE PUB”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 85 guests