EU. In or out?

[DavidS]

Agreed that Junker and Tusk are suspect characters. Their comments are purely vindictive.

There are plenty of EU residents and businesses who want an orderly Brexit that will be a fair resolution to both sides.

Those two meatheads, who can only think of nastiness, difficulty and their own inflated egos, will be a bigger thorn in negotiation than anything that comes from either side of the non-political groups. Hearing the voice of the real 'European' public would be interesting.

[Alan29]

Luckily for all of us the people who will actually doing the negotiating on both sides are experts, not bullhorn-toting, headline-seeking politicians.
Both sides.

[dave448]

12 per cent of French voters are believed to have spoiled their ballots – apparently refusing to vote for either of the presidential candidates.
and 25.3 per cent of those eligible to vote did not do so –
tthat means The total number of abstentions and spoiled ballots – a whopping 12 million – beat the 10.7 million votes that Ms Le Pen got on yesterdays vote

so hardly a landslide for le bigMac..
hmy:

[EarthWorm]

Luckily for all of us the people who will actually doing the negotiating on both sides are experts, not bullhorn-toting, headline-seeking politicians.
Both sides.

Think again, Have you actually listened to the chief "Expert" on the EU side?, methinks "bullhorn-toting, headline-seeking politician" is exactly what this jerkoff is. (ok ex-politician, but leopards spots etc)

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... it-rant-EU

[Alan29]

I doubt if he will be anywhere near the sharp end of the negotiations. As you say he's an ex politician. Politicians are generally not clever or expert enough.
Both sides will be reporting back to base with simplified bullet points written on small cards for the politicians to understand.

[Alan29]

12 per cent of French voters are believed to have spoiled their ballots – apparently refusing to vote for either of the presidential candidates.
and 25.3 per cent of those eligible to vote did not do so –
tthat means The total number of abstentions and spoiled ballots – a whopping 12 million – beat the 10.7 million votes that Ms Le Pen got on yesterdays vote

so hardly a landslide for le bigMac..
hmy:

Better than most of our votes.

[Trev]

12 per cent of French voters are believed to have spoiled their ballots – apparently refusing to vote for either of the presidential candidates.
and 25.3 per cent of those eligible to vote did not do so –
tthat means The total number of abstentions and spoiled ballots – a whopping 12 million – beat the 10.7 million votes that Ms Le Pen got on yesterdays vote

so hardly a landslide for le bigMac..
hmy:

Second round got 74% turnout which the French thought was low! We took the most important decision for the UK since the war with a turnout less than that and it's seen as a victory for democracy :whistle:

[dave448]

with a turnout less than that and it's seen as a victory for democracy

very true ..its a falacy to think that somehow you opt out if you don't vote ... in a way ..by not voting your undermining the whole point of it ..
there should be a third option on a ballot paper ..called 'none of the above'
or maybe ..
your vote could be a minus vote for a candidate
:blink:

[Jak*]

Most of the economists seem to think that Macron's election will strengthen the already growing EU economy and harden their negotiating position. Whether the effects of rising prices and stagnating wages have taken hold enough to have an impact in our election remains to be seen. Last week's local council elections, at least in my locality make you wonder about whether enough people really understand what they are voting for. The incoming leader of the new Tory council said that he had won because people had voted on national issues, which was basically an admission that they would have been better off voting Labour on local issues.
I think the future for this country is looking very bleak at the moment and Macron's prediction that the UK could end up like another Guernsey seems increasingly likely.
Cheers Jak

[-Ralph-]

Luckily for all of us the people who will actually doing the negotiating on both sides are experts, not bullhorn-toting, headline-seeking politicians.
Both sides.

Eh?

David Davis = bullhorn-toting, headline-seeking politician

Michel Barnier = bullhorn-toting, headline-seeking politician

There's some expertise sitting behind them, but they are the bosses.