EU. In or out?

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garyboy wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:25 pm I not seen the film `ground hog day` .. but I feel I am in it
and they got it mixed up with another film .. `escape to the asylum`

What is really cunning is that they keep replacing the dates on each re-run
so's you don't realise that
`nothing has changed` :P :P :lol: :?
I watched Groundhog Day every day for years...
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That explains a lot..... :lol:
The Truman Show was better imho.
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European Commission – Press release
Brexit preparedness: EU completes preparations for possible “no-deal” scenario on 12 April
Brussels, 25 March 2019

As it is increasingly likely that the United Kingdom will leave the European Union without a deal on 12 April, the European Commission has today completed its “no-deal” preparations.

At the same time, it continues supporting administrations in their own preparations and urges all EU citizens and businesses to continue informing themselves about the consequences of a possible “no-deal” scenario and to complete their no-deal preparedness. This follows the European Council (Article 50) conclusions last week calling for work to be continued on preparedness and contingency. While a “no-deal” scenario is not desirable, the EU is prepared for it.

Following a request by Prime Minister Theresa May, the European Council (Article 50) agreed on Thursday 21 March to extend the UK’s departure date to 22 May 2019, provided the Withdrawal Agreement is approved by the House of Commons by 29 March 2019 at the latest. If the Withdrawal Agreement is not approved by the House of Commons by then, the European Council has agreed to an extension until 12 April 2019. In that scenario, the United Kingdom would be expected to indicate a way forward before this date.

While the European Union continues to hope that it will not be the case, this means that if the Withdrawal Agreement is not ratified by Friday 29 March, a “no-deal” scenario may occur on 12 April. The EU has prepared for this scenario and has remained united throughout its preparations. It is now important that everyone is ready for and aware of the practical consequences a “no-deal” scenario brings.

A “no-deal” scenario

In a “no-deal” scenario, the UK will become a third country without any transitionary arrangements. All EU primary and secondary law will cease to apply to the UK from that moment onwards. There will be no transition period, as provided for in the Withdrawal Agreement. This will obviously cause significant disruption for citizens and businesses.

In such a scenario, the UK’s relations with the EU would be governed by general international public law, including rules of the World Trade Organisation. The EU will be required to immediately apply its rules and tariffs at its borders with the UK. This includes checks and controls for customs, sanitary and phytosanitary standards and verification of compliance with EU norms. Despite the considerable preparations of the Member States’ customs authorities, these controls could cause significant delays at the border. UK entities would also cease to be eligible to receive EU grants and to participate in EU procurement procedures under current terms.

Similarly, UK citizens will no longer be citizens of the European Union. They will be subject to additional checks when crossing borders into the European Union. Again, Member States have made considerable preparations at ports and airports to ensure that these checks are done as efficiently as possible, but they may nevertheless cause delays.

The EU’s “no-deal” preparedness and contingency work

Since December 2017, the European Commission has been preparing for a “no-deal” scenario. It has published 90 preparedness notices, 3 Commission Communications, and has made 19 legislative proposals (see below).

The Commission has held extensive technical discussions with the EU27 Member States both on general issues of preparedness and contingency work and on specific sectorial, legal and administrative preparedness issues. The Commission has now also completed its tour of the capitals of the 27 EU Member States. The aim of these visits was to provide any necessary clarifications on the Commission’s preparedness and contingency action and to discuss national preparations and contingency plans. The visits showed a high degree of preparation by Member States for all scenarios.

Member States have also been engaged in intensive national preparations. An overview of residency rights in the EU27 Member States is available here, as well as direct links to national preparedness websites.

Contingency and preparedness legislative measures

To date, the Commission has tabled 19 legislative proposals. 17 proposals have been adopted or agreed by the European Parliament and the Council. Formal adoption of all those files by the European Parliament and Council is currently taking place. Two proposals are to be finalised by the two co-legislators in due course.

As outlined in the Commission’s Brexit Preparedness Communications, the EU’s contingency measures will not – and cannot – mitigate the overall impact of a “no-deal” scenario, nor do they in any way compensate for the lack of preparedness or replicate the full benefits of EU membership or the favourable terms of any transition period, as provided for in the Withdrawal Agreement. These proposals are temporary in nature, limited in scope and will be adopted unilaterally by the EU. They are not “mini-deals” and have not been negotiated with the UK.

The EU has maintained – and will continue to maintain – a fully united position throughout its preparations, and during any possible “no-deal” period.

The “no-deal” contingency measures include:

– PEACE programme: the continuation of the PEACE programme on the island of Ireland until the end of 2020. As for the period after 2020, the Commission has already proposed as part of its proposals for the next Multi-annual Financial Framework to continue and strengthen cross-border support for peace and reconciliation in the border counties of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

– The EU Budget (in the process of final adoption): in a “no-deal” scenario, the EU will be in a position to honour its commitments and to continue making payments in 2019 to UK beneficiaries for contracts signed and decisions made before 30 March 2019, on condition that the UK honours its obligations under the 2019 budget and that it accepts the necessary audit checks and controls.

– Fishing rights and compensation: these measures provide for compensation for fishermen and operators from EU Members States under the European Maritime and Fisheries Fund for the temporary cessation of fishing activities. It also ensures that the EU is in a position to grant UK vessels access to EU waters until the end of 2019, on the condition that EU vessels are also granted reciprocal access to UK waters

– Financial services: temporary, limited measures to ensure that there is no immediate disruption in the central clearing of derivatives, central depositaries services for EU operators currently using UK operators, and for facilitating novation, for a fixed period of 12 months, of certain over-the-counter derivatives contracts, where a contract is transferred from a UK to an EU27 counterparty.

– Air connectivity and safety: these two measures will ensure basic air connectivity in order to avoid full interruption of air traffic between the EU and the UK in the event of a “no-deal” scenario.

– Road connectivity: allows for the continuation of safe basic road connectivity between the EU and the UK for a limited period of time, provided that the UK gives reciprocal treatment to EU companies and operators.

– Rail connectivity: ensures the validity of safety authorisations for certain parts of rail infrastructure for a strictly limited period of three months to allow long-term solutions in line with EU law to be put in place. This is, in particular, related to the Channel Tunnel and will be conditional on the United Kingdom maintaining safety standards identical to EU requirements.

– Ship inspections: this aims to ensure legal certainty and secure business continuity in shipping.

– Re-alignment of the North Sea – Mediterranean Core Network Corridor: This adds new maritime links between Ireland, France, Belgium and the Netherlands to the core network, and introduces a new funding priority to the Connecting Europe Facility (CEF): adapting transport infrastructure for security and external border check purposes.

– Climate policy: this measure ensures that a “no-deal” scenario does not affect the smooth functioning and the environmental integrity of the Emissions Trading System.

– Erasmus + programme: students and trainees abroad participating in Erasmus+ at the time of the UK’s withdrawal can complete their studies and continue to receive the relevant funding or grants.

– Social security entitlements: the entitlements (such as periods of insurance, (self) employment or residence in the United Kingdom before withdrawal) of those people who exercised their right to free movement before the UK’s withdrawal are safeguarded.

– Visa reciprocity (in the process of final adoption): visa-free travel to the EU for UK nationals if the UK also grants reciprocal and non-discriminatory visa-free travel to all EU citizens.

State aid

As regards the need for financial resources and/or technical assistance, the EU’s existing State aid rules make it possible to address problems encountered by businesses in the case of a “no-deal” Brexit. By way of example, State aid rules permit consultancy aid for small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) or training aid which could be used to assist with SMEs preparedness (including possible future custom formalities). The Rescue and Restructuring Guidelines contain provisions on temporary restructuring support schemes for SMEs, which could be useful to address their liquidity problems caused by Brexit. Access to finance is possible in various formats, e.g. through State-financed lending schemes respecting the reference rate or State guarantees under the guarantee notice (contact point available here).

Funding and support under the EU budget

Technical and financial assistance from the European Union can also be made available in certain areas, such as the training of customs officials under the Customs 2020 programme. Other programmes can help similar training projects in the area of sanitary and phytosanitary controls. For agriculture, EU law provides a variety of instruments to cope with the most immediate effects of the withdrawal of the United Kingdom, in particular in a no-deal scenario.
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Amazing, isn't it how 27 different nations can respond to this crisis (not of there making) with a clear coherent document, while our shambles of a government which created the crisis for reasons that are now impossible to understand cant even agree a policy, let alone a strategy
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not my most favourite politicians, but …

Labour MP Hilary Benn, chairman of the Brexit Select Committee, told Today:
“If the Government isn’t going to do its job then Parliament is going to have to take responsibility.”

The Government claimed the move had set a “dangerous, unpredictable precedent” for the constitution.
Before last night’s vote, the Prime Minister said she refused to feel bound to accept the results.
But Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the Government must “take this process seriously”.

Top MEP Guy Verhofstadt welcomed the result, tweeting: “An opportunity to build a cross-party co-operation leading to an enhanced political declaration & a closer future relationship!

Sir Oliver Letwin, the architect of the takeover, told the Standard that politicians “owe it to the country” to work together.


this is comparable? with Magna Carta where the power of the King (John) (the leader of the country) was curtailed by Parliament
nowadays its the power of the Prime Minister (the leader of parliament itself)


(( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta ))



also interesting …
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Richard Simpson Mark II wrote:Amazing, isn't it how 27 different nations can respond to this crisis (not of there making) with a clear coherent document, while our shambles of a government which created the crisis for reasons that are now impossible to understand cant even agree a policy, let alone a strategy
Looking at this shower we have in power, being ruled by Brussels seems definitely preferable at the moment
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johnnyboxer wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:55 am
Richard Simpson Mark II wrote:Amazing, isn't it how 27 different nations can respond to this crisis (not of there making) with a clear coherent document, while our shambles of a government which created the crisis for reasons that are now impossible to understand cant even agree a policy, let alone a strategy
Looking at this shower we have in power, being ruled by Brussels seems definitely preferable at the moment

Exactly.

Disingenuous politicians still claiming "an overwhelming percentage of the people voted to leave", rather than a slim majority.

and yet the lemmings are determined to drag the rest of us over the edge- whilst burbling about "healing the divided country".

Well that's never going to happen. This brexit is the final nail in the coffin for the UK as a cohesive nation.
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Richard Simpson Mark II wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:52 pm Amazing, isn't it how 27 different nations can respond to this crisis (not of there making) with a clear coherent document, while our shambles of a government which created the crisis for reasons that are now impossible to understand cant even agree a policy, let alone a strategy
From the report I was reading yesterday it looks like the net receivers will do what the net contributors tell them to do and, likewise, they will do what France and Germany tell them to do.
It’s not in their interest to rock the boat.
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Okay... they've gone too far this time...
Speed limiting technology looks set to become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022 after new rules were provisionally agreed by the EU.

The Department for Transport said the system would also apply in the UK, despite Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415

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OB1 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:21 am Okay... they've gone too far this time...
Speed limiting technology looks set to become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022 after new rules were provisionally agreed by the EU.

The Department for Transport said the system would also apply in the UK, despite Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415

:lol:
Well overdue in my opinion ;)
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