EU. In or out?

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I know its an easy target richard but conflating the idiocy of the current PM with the whole issue of Brexit and insisting they are interchangeable arguements is tomfoolery of the greatest order, it only works on idiots of the same level as those who voted based on what he and some other arseholes told them.

But the current PM has been the principal cheerleader for Brexit ever since the days when, as a young reporter, he was making up nonsense stories about the Common Market banning bent bananas.

He's still making up stories now. Ands besides Brexit his only political strategy seems to be to attempt to buy friends with unfounded promises.

He's like a fat kid with a rich dad, giving away sweets in the playground in an attempt to avoid getting a kicking.

I can't think of any other PM in history who has lost more Parliamentary votes than he has won and still clung to office, or has told so many lies about such a serious matter and not had the decency to resign. Take Yellowhammer. He claimed it was out-of-date advice on worst-case scenarios leaked by a former minister (he blamed Philip Hammond). In fact it was the latest advice on the most likely scenario, and had been given only to his newly-appointed cabinet. Hammond pulled him up on this, and Johnson had no response.

Ask yourself this: if Brexit is going to be so good, why does he keep lying about it?

Who is going to benefit from it?

Who is funding the pro-Brexit campaigns?

As ever, follow the money...
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https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/view/170 ... -the-union
This makes interesting reading. It would be interesting to see how many of those who perceive their jobs or those of their children are at risk after Brexit, are still in favour of it. Having recently been made redundant, suffered a thankful short period of unemployment and now in insecure employment I would not wish that situation on anyone, even if they voted for it. Apart from certain politicians of course.
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I doubt we will ever leave anyway, business interests come above all other considerations, including integrity
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Asgard wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:05 am I doubt we will ever leave anyway, business interests come above all other considerations, including integrity
There has been little or no integrity demonstrated by either leave or remain advocates - liars all. :(

And the worst of all of them now resides in 10 Downing Street,
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It's an impossible dream.

Arlene Foster doesn't want a hard land border with the EU, doesn't want the Johnson 'borders away from the frontier' solution and won't accept no border between NI and the RoI with a border in the Irish Sea either.

Apart from a face transplant, what does she want?
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Your last sentence says it all.
It’s easy to whinge but there comes a time to actually be useful and propose some positive solutions. I don’t think any of us should stay awake waiting for her.
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Most vocal remainers would class themselves as Left leaning to a greater or lesser degree

Yet the conservative party are largely remainers

The UK Communist party (proper lefties not champagne socialists with multiple vehicles and a house in the country) are anti-EU as they understand how the EU is pro-big business and even more pro - cartels.

Attempting to make it seem like a simple divide between kind minded fluffy lefties and nasty hatefull right wingers is ridiculous, My workmates call me commie to my face, yet I am defiantly anti - EU, to me it goes hand in hand with being anti-globalisation.

Germany is a huge pollutor and engages in massive de-forestation and large scale use of coal, yet it is the major power in the very cartel that faux Left wingers and liberals covet, crazy eh?

Just goes to show, pigeon holes are for the birds :D
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Just got in ...was looking for a dead PM in a ditch...ran out of daylight...search resumes at first light tomorrow.

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Don’t fret. JC says he’s going to save us all. :roll:
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Only thing he's going to save is Rees Moggs family fortune, some have no idea how much Brexit is worth to those with money to invest
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