EU. In or out?

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Couldn't be worse? ..... How about ReesMogg taking us back to the C18th?

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Could we rent the NZ PM for a few months?
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If we are going to rent something can we rent a different parliamentary system that is less left and right and a bit more collaborative?
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If one good thing has come out of this shambles, whichever side you are on, it has exposed the dreadful state of UK politics and the political system and that it needs serious improvement/reform.
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scutty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:29 pm Could we rent the NZ PM for a few months?
The Donald is well known for his negotiating and diplomatic skills and will be looking for another job soon... :lol:
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SteveR wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:05 pm
scutty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:29 pm Could we rent the NZ PM for a few months?
The Donald is well known for his negotiating and diplomatic skills and will be looking for another job soon... :lol:
I don't think he's available, according his VP he's been sent by God to save Israel from Iran not sort Brexit out, although that could be one of the other 'commandments' he's brought with him. :o

Our politicians aren't exactly covering themselves in glory but they haven't yet sunk to the level of treating the electorate like complete and utter morons that you can literally say anything you want to in the pretty sure knowledge that they will actually lap it up :(
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When dickhead Dave took the emergency exit there was no natural successor but May took up the challenge. For the puppet masters pulling the strings from behind she is a sacrificial lamb ready to be ousted whenever they need to.
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So, we're not leaving on the 29th March. MP's have until the 12th April to vote in favour of Mays deal, or Brexit is cancelled.
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AlanHolt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:18 pm So, we're not leaving on the 29th March. MP's have until the 12th April to vote in favour of Mays deal, or Brexit is cancelled.
Wish that were the case Alan, but it's more complicated than that.

May MIGHT put her 'deal' to a meaningful vote in the commons next tuesday or wednesday, for the third time - (IF the speaker decides that it is sufficiently different from her other failed attempts).

If she wins, then the UK gets May's deal and a hard brexit, but the government has an extension of Article 50 until the 22nd May in order to make preparations for May's deal.

If she loses, then parliament has until 12th April to cobble together some kind of brexit deal that they can agree upon and put that to the vote. This then becomes the deal that goes to the EU for its approval. If everyone signs off on it then that, again, is brexit - but probably a softer version.

OR parliament could ask the EU for a further, longer extension, explicitly to carry out a second referendum (and possibly a general election too) - to which the EU27 would have to agree.

If May's deal fails AND no other deal can be agreed, then the default is a crash-out-no-deal brexit on 12th April. In the final hours up to that deadline, May might stare into the abyss and finally concede that a no-deal brexit is so bad it is better to revoke article 50 altogether and cancel the whole nightmare (as 3 million - or is it 4 million now? - have told the commons it wants). This would mean brexit is cancelled. Phew!

That is as clear as the mud that I throw up from my rear tyre of a weekend. But brexit was never going to be otherwise...
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I think it fits in here quite nicely! ;)

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