Barmouth

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garyboy wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:50 pm OnH .. and would you be happy for your loved one to die in an English hospital while the intensive care nurse is late, looking for a space to park, or the money to PAY for the privilege .. is the nurse irresponsible and an idiot .. or should 'authority' provide sensible free parking area?
Wow that jumped quickly. But as you mention it:- Why shouldn’t nurses pay to park at work? Millions of other people do.

When you say that The Authorities should provide sensible free parking you do know that that is the Tax Payer don’t you?
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Why shouldn't English nurses pay to park at work ?????????

I rest my case .. :cry:
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Cockwombles........they do tend to congregate in groups............a bit like sheep but not quite as intelligent or good looking
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I apologise to the proud Welsh people for the biggest amongst you.. Do not let the weak drag the strong down.
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Local authorities are subject to several contradictory aims and constraints.

The first is to maximise revenues. Grants from central government are but a small fraction of what they were, and they are not allowed to increase council tax to compensate. So, revenue must be harvested from other sources...bus lanes, parking, jobsworths with clipboards etc, charging vans £50 to go to the recycling centre. Some local authorities (like Luton) are lucky in that they have a huge council-owned cash cow like Luton Airport, but most do not.

The next is that they must be 'seen to be green' and regulate traffic, but not to the extent that local residents rebel and vote them out. In Bath, there are a couple of places where air quality is poor. The council offered the public a number of options, including a pollution charge applied to older cars (which would have been very effective)...but many of the residents of Bath own older cars: either a 'trophy' classic car, or a runabout for nanny; so they voted to tax older trucks and buses instead, even though very few such vehicles actually go into Bath and a reduction in their numbers is unlikely to improve air quality. But the usual method of regulating traffic is to charge for parking.

But, local businesses depend on the free flow of people and goods...too much of the above, and the local economy dies. But if too much in the way of people and goods flow in and out of an area, then people complain about congestion and pollution.

Couple these contradiction with the generally poor quality of persons elected as councillors, and you realise that local authorities certainly can't do everything right, but the most common outcome is that they do nearly everything wrong.

The trouble is, that if you were to stand as a local councillor and explain that the best you can do is offer the least worst solution, you wouldn't get elected. People want a wide range of free public services, empty roads to drive their cars on, free parking for them, and a council tax bill of zero.
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Post by Richard Simpson Mark II » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:07 pm

Local authorities are subject to several contradictory aims and constraints.

The first is to maximise revenues. Grants from central government are but a small fraction of what they were, and they are not allowed to increase council tax to compensate. So, revenue must be harvested from other sources...bus lanes, parking, jobsworths with clipboards etc, charging vans £50 to go to the recycling centre. Some local authorities (like Luton) are lucky in that they have a huge council-owned cash cow like Luton Airport, but most do not.

The next is that they must be 'seen to be green' and regulate traffic, but not to the extent that local residents rebel and vote them out. In Bath, there are a couple of places where air quality is poor. The council offered the public a number of options, including a pollution charge applied to older cars (which would have been very effective)...but many of the residents of Bath own older cars: either a 'trophy' classic car, or a runabout for nanny; so they voted to tax older trucks and buses instead, even though very few such vehicles actually go into Bath and a reduction in their numbers is unlikely to improve air quality. But the usual method of regulating traffic is to charge for parking.

But, local businesses depend on the free flow of people and goods...too much of the above, and the local economy dies. But if too much in the way of people and goods flow in and out of an area, then people complain about congestion and pollution.

Couple these contradiction with the generally poor quality of persons elected as councillors, and you realise that local authorities certainly can't do everything right, but the most common outcome is that they do nearly everything wrong.

The trouble is, that if you were to stand as a local councillor and explain that the best you can do is offer the least worst solution, you wouldn't get elected. People want a wide range of free public services, empty roads to drive their cars on, free parking for them, and a council tax bill of zero.


Yes, it's a dilemma.. and going to increasingly so after Covid .. but this is why we need innovate and imaginative leadership.

Look at the fantastic resources in the Bath area and town .. baths, cafes, river, buildings, countryside etc etc... With free but limited inner parking for residents, sorting of areas, public transport , outer area parking, outer area shopping, guided tours, .. so much potential..... just national leadership and local endeavour needed

Multiply that all over the country.. fantastic potential

Wales is in a strong position.. but .....
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Rye, in East Sussex, is a major weekend ride destination and for years Southern Water were happy to allow bike parking on the wharf. Some tosspot mayor decided bikers weren’t good enough for the town (despite the large amount of money they bring in, that wouldn’t be made up elsewhere) and wanted Southern Water to throw them off. Essentially it was met with a two fingered salute and nothing has changed. Well done SW.

Then you get the massive May Day invasion of Hastings which has happily taken over the sea front for 45 years and tied in well with other bank holiday visitors and a Morris Dancing festival. As far as I know, it is still happily accepted and the money it brings to the town (pubs and cafes, at least) is huge.

Go about things the right way and you are halfway there.....as long as the councillors and locals are on your side.
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At present Cardiff Council is fairly ambivalent regarding bikes - in general bike parking is free, even in marked "streetside"parking-meter car bays ....... but, and it's a big but, the council has a "Cabinet Member for Strategic Planning & Transport " who's a fanatical cycle enthusiast and, given an entirely free rein, would get rid of all motorised transport from the city's central area, replacing it with cycle lanes, cycle rickshaws, and, at a pinch, buses powered by non-polluting fairy dust. I fear his type is infiltrating other local authorities even now. :o
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