Mid layer...

[Hopper1]

I'm shopping for an alternative mid layer, for under my jacket.
Recently bought the Oxford Mondial suit and although it seems very good (so far), I did feel a bit of a chill recently, across my chest in around 8*C.
I doubt this is helped by the fact that the liner doesn't actually fasten, so there's about 2" gap at the front.
I know a lot of riders don't bother with these liners, preferring there personal favourites, instead.

I was actually a bit disappointed when I removed the thermal liner, as it was so thin!...

I reckon that any quilted jacket would be a step up on the original, and as it would have a zip, it would be a bonus.
I'm currently looking at the Rab Cirrus Flex Jacket, and I'm pretty sure I'd still have enough space in the Mondial jacket to wear a gillet, too, for when it's proper cold! So, maybe a Rab Altus Gillet.

Does anyone have any experience with these products, or recommend similar?
Don't want any hoods.

[Hugh]

Greetings,

If it is just a one off cold journey then try tucking a newspaper across your chest under your jacket. It really does work.

TTFN

Hugh.

[Paul_C]

If the newspaper isn't your cup of tea I'd have thought any soft shell jacket would do. Reasonably thin, keeps any draughts out, adequate thermal protection. Or maybe just a winter jumper!

Quilted jackets rely on trapping air but they'll probably get compressed a bit too much to be effective.

I use a Klim Badlands (no thermal lining) most of the year, when it's warm I generally carry an old soft shell jacket incase it turns cold. If I set out in the cold I just wear an extra fleece top.

[Jetlag Jon]

I commute year round, and have recently bought a Mondial jacket. In cold weather, over my work clothes (trousers and collared shirt), I wear a thin but very good fleece, and a down gilet, both bought from Decathlon for not much money. I also have the liner in the jacket. I haven't got cold down to zero degrees Celsius in that, and it's not bulky. Plus it doesn't break the bank. If I am out for a ride in very cold weather for fun, I wear a Merino underlayer (Aldi) a Trespass midlayer, and the Decathlon fleece and gilet. My toes and fingers (with heated grips) get cold long before my torso.

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[garyboy]

the 3 zips on the chest wont help as wind pressure will let cold air in?
A flap over the zip/s would have helped a bit?
Nylon underneath will be sweaty?
Hugh's newspaper is the most effective (mirror not the sun )
I use 1 or even 2 microfleece/gillet, sometimes with a chest pad of sorts (neck warmer, towel, dirty knickers?)
and if still draughty I put on my cheap plastic rain over-jacket (toasty then!)

[herman]

I am a big fan of Alpkit and they will have something that suits no doubt. Generally for cold conditions I have marino wool base layer, soft shell, light down , windstopper then jacket on top as I really do feel the cold being a soft southerner.

[byewayrider]

What works for me is a gore windstopper fleece, great off bike too as smart and light...look at cycling jackets...

Also use a 500 down jacket with pertex membrane...toasty and packs small ...or look at the army snugpak sleeka jackets...very good ..

[qcnr]

I use my Buffalo Jacket. Very warm piece of kit.
http://www.buffalosystems.co.uk/products/ First used them when I was in the military.

[deksawyer]

I use something like this, although mine has less padded, softshell sleeves. Works very well.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/trek-100-me ... 02266.html

or this might work as well.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/nh100-mens- ... 70601.html

They can be used off bike too.

[Hopper1]

Cheers guys, plenty of food for thought.

I appreciate that the zips are the weak point, so will bear that in mind.
Probably go for a quarter zip fleece and the gillet, to mix/ match as conditions dictate...