Does anyone carry a winch?

[Brenhden]

I think the only time I've ever truely needed a winch there wasn't anything near enough to connect it to so I would have needed a ground anchor too. A spade would have been a lot more useful.

[captinktm]

I think the only time I've ever truely needed a winch there wasn't anything near enough to connect it to so I would have needed a ground anchor too. A spade would have been a lot more useful.
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There you go I always carry a spade, got to berry those logs. as I said in a previous post you simply dig with the shovel you now carry a ditch, the ground your digging in dictates the depth it also dictates the size of the circle you dig, but I have used this method to get a L/R out so it works.

[halfpint]

I have ridden over a few bumps and hills , sorry to hear you got lost on your own . it just the matter of you cant take every thing with you . I dont do hotels or ride in large gangs of off road bikes . keep doing what you like if you feel the need to have winch please take one . but to factory fit to a starter motor must see that working .... happy travels captain as for a lesson I never offered I just rode past .

[Morph]

welsh forrest
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coedwig Cymreig
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You just need to also carry a ground anchor!!

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Simples.

[captinktm]

welsh forrest
20180107_115724_LI by gary boy, on Flickr

coedwig Cymreig
20170928_130444 by gary boy, on Flickr

You just need to also carry a ground anchor!!

5184f+5AryL._SY355_.jpg

Simples.

I am assuming you have used one of these? thought not. They are not as effective as digging a trench and laying the rope in. We found that the self recovery anchor on our CET (combat engineer tractor) which was rocket propelled and looked like this was completely useless in the Falklands and simply pull through the ground. I guess you were only joking anyway so I am in fact wasting my own time.

[Morph]

I am assuming you have used one of these? thought not. They are not as effective as digging a trench and laying the rope in. We found that the self recovery anchor on our CET (combat engineer tractor) which was rocket propelled and looked like this was completely useless in the Falklands and simply pull through the ground. I guess you were only joking anyway so I am in fact wasting my own time.

Yes, I was joking but useful to know.

I think the idea of burying a shovel or not having a bike so large that it needs a winch are better ideas.

[captinktm]

I am assuming you have used one of these? thought not. They are not as effective as digging a trench and laying the rope in. We found that the self recovery anchor on our CET (combat engineer tractor) which was rocket propelled and looked like this was completely useless in the Falklands and simply pull through the ground. I guess you were only joking anyway so I am in fact wasting my own time.

Yes, I was joking but useful to know.

I think the idea of burying a shovel or not having a bike so large that it needs a winch are better ideas.

It matters not how big the bike is when your proper stuck, I have been in Welsh enduro's where 125 have needed 2 or 3 guys to get them out. Be sides if like me you are doing a long trip, and not using hotels, and carrying a lot of food then the bike has to be large enough to carry it. Why not take a rope? they are light and have many uses, I think we are talking about 2 completely different "Adventures" here. Three guys came over to Bulgaria last year with the intention of riding there "light" bikes all the way home ............well part of the way, some of it was spent on a train. Anyway only one made it back without the use of a breakdown truck. These bikes were never designed to cover massive road miles with lights on all the time. Smaller lighter bikes have smaller lighter batteries and stators, they also carry less oil and water, they were never designed for prolonged motorway use. Of course there is always the time element as well. Yes you can cruz across Europe on your 250 or 450 as long as you want the take a week to get to the interesting stuff oh and a week back! Oh dear no time to use your nice light bike of the trails. There as to be a compromise and for me if you are carrying 50/60 kg of gear then the bike has to be minimum of 185 kg or the tail will wag the dog.

[garyboy]

CRF250L?
146kg
Rides roads all day
Good on trails
V good mpg
reasonable speed
Long service intervals
comfy seat
looks da bollax
large battery
(Not sure about carrying loads tho)

[bill_qaz]

Suzuki make a good ground anchor

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[catcitrus]

I am assuming you have used one of these? thought not. They are not as effective as digging a trench and laying the rope in. We found that the self recovery anchor on our CET (combat engineer tractor) which was rocket propelled and looked like this was completely useless in the Falklands and simply pull through the ground. I guess you were only joking anyway so I am in fact wasting my own time.

Yes, I was joking but useful to know.

I think the idea of burying a shovel or not having a bike so large that it needs a winch are better ideas.

It matters not how big the bike is when your proper stuck, I have been in Welsh enduro's where 125 have needed 2 or 3 guys to get them out. Be sides if like me you are doing a long trip, and not using hotels, and carrying a lot of food then the bike has to be large enough to carry it. Why not take a rope? they are light and have many uses, I think we are talking about 2 completely different "Adventures" here. Three guys came over to Bulgaria last year with the intention of riding there "light" bikes all the way home ............well part of the way, some of it was spent on a train. Anyway only one made it back without the use of a breakdown truck. These bikes were never designed to cover massive road miles with lights on all the time. Smaller lighter bikes have smaller lighter batteries and stators, they also carry less oil and water, they were never designed for prolonged motorway use. Of course there is always the time element as well. Yes you can cruz across Europe on your 250 or 450 as long as you want the take a week to get to the interesting stuff oh and a week back! Oh dear no time to use your nice light bike of the trails. There as to be a compromise and for me if you are carrying 50/60 kg of gear then the bike has to be minimum of 185 kg or the tail will wag the dog.

Firstly I can't believe this thread !--it must be a joke ! Anyone who thinks a big bike will navigate the mud. rocks etc of Wales or similar is asking for trouble--GSs are particularly useless-wrong gearing, overweight, pots get stuck etc. KTMs (V twins) are about the best but need three people to lift them out when they get stuck--However, good riders use speed and generally survive (I've been out with them). As to riding small bikes to Bulgaria I did it on my wr250R last year with all the camping gear--yes I took my time and enjoyed the less travelled roads--but got there , did a week exploring trails --and rode back--4,500 miles with one chain adjustment and an oil change. I have a 1050 Triumph if I want to blast across continents--horses for courses. I carry a recovery strap and try not to go into really difficult areas when ALONE--getting the bike stuck is one thing but breaking a leg or similar when on your own could be life threatening. If a light bike gets bogged, get all the gear off it, waggle it from side to side until you can lay it down --and then drag the front wheel over, then rear, then front and so on until you can get it upright on more solid ground--and walk it out to keep the weight off. Finally, if it looks boggy THEN STOP--and walk it to test it out and find the best line--if its no go then just turn around!--try all the above on a big bike!--fine if you are Knighter and 6 foot and strong!