best alp?

[garyboy]

I think they've finally stopped making it now but I recently bought a new Alp 4.0 which replaced a CRF250 Rally. Not as polished as the Honda but has more grunt, and I find it better off-road whilst is still has a manageable seat height. A bit hefty but it's a big, old lump in that frame.

It's fun and useable on the road, and has long service intervals. All very old school but the DR350 engine is great and just like the trail bikes I grew up with years ago, rather than the current crop of lofty models which are just all too tall and quick for me.

yep .. that is the appeal to me, too.

[garyboy]

just a thought process at the moment .. but possibly next year
my choices (not that anyone cares, of course) seem to be along these lines

1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

any comments?
(except that I am a crazsy mixed up oap)

[EWR]

just a thought process at the moment .. but possibly next year
my choices (not that anyone cares, of course) seem to be along these lines

1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

any comments?
(except that I am a crazsy mixed up oap)

If I recall, the Cota is kick start only and has no key. Also, it's quite low geared and with a very small tank capacity, so probably poorer than the Alp on the road: the footpegs and lever positioning are straight off the trials bike and so are quite widely spaced and take some getting used to. I have two friends with Freerides but they both swapped them for X-Trainers, which they much preferred.

If Honda put the concept CT125 into production, that might fit the bill:

Honda-CT125-Concept-890x500.jpg (82.56 KiB) Viewed 2934 times

[johnnyboxer]

just a thought process at the moment .. but possibly next year
my choices (not that anyone cares, of course) seem to be along these lines

1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

any comments?
(except that I am a crazsy mixed up oap)

If I recall, the Cota is kick start only and has no key. Also, it's quite low geared and with a very small tank capacity, so probably poorer than the Alp on the road: the footpegs and lever positioning are straight off the trials bike and so are quite widely spaced and take some getting used to. I have two friends with Freerides but they both swapped them for X-Trainers, which they much preferred.

If Honda put the concept CT125 into production, that might fit the bill:

Honda-CT125-Concept-890x500.jpg

Kickstart is fine
It's easy to kick over
I can do mine by hand

[Richard Simpson Mark II]

From my time in South Wales TRF I recall 2 or 3 people getting Freerides when they first came out, and having all kinds of problems with them (everything from brakes to airfilters) plus poor range. I think they all got moved on quite quickly.

Newer models may be better

[Richard Simpson Mark II]

The 200 Alp is the one that seems to get used in LDTs, rather than the 350.

But if you are looking to use it on the road as well, rather than trailer it, the 350 would be far better.

[EWR]

just a thought process at the moment .. but possibly next year
my choices (not that anyone cares, of course) seem to be along these lines

1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

any comments?
(except that I am a crazsy mixed up oap)

If I recall, the Cota is kick start only and has no key. Also, it's quite low geared and with a very small tank capacity, so probably poorer than the Alp on the road: the footpegs and lever positioning are straight off the trials bike and so are quite widely spaced and take some getting used to. I have two friends with Freerides but they both swapped them for X-Trainers, which they much preferred.

If Honda put the concept CT125 into production, that might fit the bill:
Honda-CT125-Concept-890x500.jpg

Kickstart is fine
It's easy to kick over
I can do mine by hand

I like the 4 R: just a little too impractical and restrictive on the road for my time of riding, compared to the Alp. Nicely made though.

[garyboy]

just a thought process at the moment .. but possibly next year
my choices (not that anyone cares, of course) seem to be along these lines

1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

any comments?
(except that I am a crazsy mixed up oap)

If I recall, the Cota is kick start only and has no key. Also, it's quite low geared and with a very small tank capacity, so probably poorer than the Alp on the road: the footpegs and lever positioning are straight off the trials bike and so are quite widely spaced and take some getting used to. I have two friends with Freerides but they both swapped them for X-Trainers, which they much preferred.

If Honda put the concept CT125 into production, that might fit the bill:
Honda-CT125-Concept-890x500.jpg

hmmmm … good review of the X trainer too … must go on the list !!
ps .. does anyone know if they are quiet .. or the usual 2T??


https://rideexpeditions.com/beta-x-trai ... duro-bike/

[garyboy]

so far ..

1a .. beta Xtrainer 300 2T
1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250. ??? .. [may be too small, like a trials bike]?? ..[ low weight is very appealing]
3a. Yamaha scorpa T ride.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

[garyboy]

just a thought process at the moment .. but possibly next year
my choices (not that anyone cares, of course) seem to be along these lines

1. KTM Freeride, 250.
2. KTM exc250F.
3. Honda montessa cota 250.

4. beta alp 4, 350.
5. beta alp 2, 200.

6. Honda 125 cbf/xlxr ...
7. Sinnis 125 terrain

any comments?
(except that I am a crazsy mixed up oap)

If I recall, the Cota is kick start only and has no key. Also, it's quite low geared and with a very small tank capacity, so probably poorer than the Alp on the road: the footpegs and lever positioning are straight off the trials bike and so are quite widely spaced and take some getting used to. I have two friends with Freerides but they both swapped them for X-Trainers, which they much preferred.

If Honda put the concept CT125 into production, that might fit the bill:
Honda-CT125-Concept-890x500.jpg

Kickstart is fine
It's easy to kick over
I can do mine by hand

.. good to know, JB …. its still a contender, due to its very low weight