Ah that's not at all what I am saying or implying. There is no such thing as a short or tall bike. You don't buy a bike like trousers do you? No you buy a style of bike, that you like the look of and suits your needs. We are talking about adv bikes but I remember in my sports bike days that most if not all were very difficult to get both feet on the ground, but it did n't sorties buying them. It does not really matter what style of bike you buy (apart from a chopper) when you start altering the ergonomics you spoil the bike. Of course your right about ground clearance, that why I would never lower a bike. It would be great if a manufacturer designed a bike for shorter folk, starting from the ground clearance and working backwards from there. I can't see why they don't use my solution and fit them with air suspension, which would be totally adjustable on the fly, for the hard of thinking it could be automatic, as you slow down the bike lowers. Or a cheaper option could be air solesgaryboy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:49 am I don't see how anyone can deny that a short bike is suited to short people and a tall bike is suited to tall people.
if a tall bike is suited to a short person then an extremely tall bike must be suited to a tall person? ? .. ?
it is the ground clearance that is the important factor (plus the suited ergonomics for your height)
[and of course the correct suspension set up for your weight]
which inflated as you slowed down. Trials bikes are short for a reason. Try riding one all day (which I have) it's proper death, and the panniers drag.
must admit .. a taller bike seems to handle better on the trailsTonibe63 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:27 am When I started trail riding and rallies I found that once I'd fallen off a few times and realised it didn't hurt too much I preferred a taller bike.
I found when standing on the pegs I rode the bike soo much better.
Sitting down with feet on pegs mean't I was losing control.
Sitting down and paddling feet mean't the tail was wagging the dog.
For me most problems come from slowing down too much and relying on traction to pull you through .......... which often ended in tears, even worse trying to get going from a standing start was plain hard work.
Momentum is your friend so choose you places to stop and if in doubt about an obstacle then gas gas gas.
moi)
Trying to convince a novice that going faster is easier and they will crash less as always been a problem. The difference between a clubman and an expert is not that great but getting from one speed to the next can and will involve soil sampling. This of course is best don't when you are younggaryboy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:34 ammust admit .. a taller bike seems to handle better on the trailsTonibe63 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:27 am When I started trail riding and rallies I found that once I'd fallen off a few times and realised it didn't hurt too much I preferred a taller bike.
I found when standing on the pegs I rode the bike soo much better.
Sitting down with feet on pegs mean't I was losing control.
Sitting down and paddling feet mean't the tail was wagging the dog.
For me most problems come from slowing down too much and relying on traction to pull you through .......... which often ended in tears, even worse trying to get going from a standing start was plain hard work.
Momentum is your friend so choose you places to stop and if in doubt about an obstacle then gas gas gas.
but without the option of dabbing etc my confidence waned
and fear of falling, especially at an ancient age, or at novice level (or perpetual novice level
was debilitating
and actually falling .. a painful disaster
[[perhaps its just me ?]]
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