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Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:18 am
by moto al
Just remember lads consumer law is different north of the border,a friend in the legal profession told me on another matter ,re a Camera ,in Scotland the consumer has far more rights than folk south of the border.Al

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:24 am
by AndyB
I wonder if Honda would make him sign a non-disclosure agreement if they did give him something extra as a gesture of goodwill just to prevent the floodgates being opened?

I managed to get a grand in vouchers from a well known kitchen and bathroom supplier after they failed to deliver goods on time and left us without a kitchen for 2 weeks simply by putting a picture of the gutted kitchen on their Facebook page for an hour or two :laugh:

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:39 am
by Mike54
moto al wrote:Just remember lads consumer law is different north of the border,a friend in the legal profession told me on another matter ,re a Camera ,in Scotland the consumer has far more rights than folk south of the border.Al
Al, the Consumer Rights Act 2015 covers the whole of the UK. In fact though, interestingly enough, consumers in scotland have one key difference in that they only have 5 years to deal with a defective product as opposed to 6 in Englandw/Wales/NI - so technically they have less rights, not more.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about ... -act-2015/

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:32 am
by Oop North John
So how many people based their buying decision on Honda's past build history, hoping it would be the same on the latest AT?

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:11 pm
by boboneleg
Oop North John wrote:So how many people based their buying decision on Honda's past build history, hoping it would be the same on the latest AT?
I would imagine quite a lot, I've owned several Hondas in the past and the build quality was good. It'll be a real shame if it turns out that this bike ruins their reputation.

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:40 pm
by AndyB
Oop North John wrote:So how many people based their buying decision on Honda's past build history, hoping it would be the same on the latest AT?
If that's recent history it's one thing but if you're looking back to the '80s when they were at their [strike]worst[/strike] best for throwing rubbish at unsuspecting buyers not many :pinch:

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:50 pm
by Oop North John
AndyB wrote:
Oop North John wrote:So how many people based their buying decision on Honda's past build history, hoping it would be the same on the latest AT?
If that's recent history it's one thing but if you're looking back to the '80s when they were at their [strike]worst[/strike] best for throwing rubbish at unsuspecting buyers not many :pinch:
True, no reports of chocolate cams on the AT, so far :(

And I'm not Honda bashing as even the mighty BM's seem to have more build issues than in the good / bad old days, and most forums seem to bemoan the build quality of ver 2 of the bike over the original. Assuming it has a similar engine configuration / size which the AT hasn't.

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:31 pm
by catcitrus
AndyB wrote:
Oop North John wrote:So how many people based their buying decision on Honda's past build history, hoping it would be the same on the latest AT?
If that's recent history it's one thing but if you're looking back to the '80s when they were at their [strike]worst[/strike] best for throwing rubbish at unsuspecting buyers not many :pinch:
Where did that come from?--in my experience late 80s hondas were very well built--I have two at the moment and they make recent stuff look absolute sh1t on quality. Now if you are talking about a design faults that's another issue.

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:43 pm
by Nigel
catcitrus wrote:
AndyB wrote:
Oop North John wrote:So how many people based their buying decision on Honda's past build history, hoping it would be the same on the latest AT?
If that's recent history it's one thing but if you're looking back to the '80s when they were at their [strike]worst[/strike] best for throwing rubbish at unsuspecting buyers not many :pinch:
Where did that come from?--in my experience late 80s hondas were very well built--I have two at the moment and they make recent stuff look absolute sh1t on quality. Now if you are talking about a design faults that's another issue.
Knock knock who`s there? CX500 :laugh: chocolate cams!

Re: The Honda Africa twin 1000 , warts and all.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:46 pm
by Crossrutted
Nigel wrote: Knock knock who`s there? CX500 :laugh: chocolate cams!
I wouldn't touch a new AT with a bargepole, however I can report that my CX500 suffered no mechanical issues and it and my CB400Four were two of the best built bikes I've owned.

(the worst? - a Ducati..)