Exactly Simon. I used to be a fairly keen photographer, but that was back in 35mm / 6x6 film days. I had a darkroom and did my own processing and printing. Digital has spoiled photography for me, even though I know that it's massively more convenient now. I understand shutter speeds, apertures, depth of field, film speeds etc etc very well, but I've never transferred that over into getting good results in digital. My fault. I just never sat down and learned the new way of doing thing. I've now become a point-and-shoot auto-mode picture-taker.simonw wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:40 pmYeah, I don't find OSM as good as OS for BOATs etc in the UK.
Re phone vs camera - it depends what you want to do with the photos. A lot of phone cameras are now very good, and if you just want to take some snaps to show friends or post on the forum, a decent phone camera will be fine. But if you want a 20x30 to hang on the wall they might struggle!
I use a Pentax bridge camera for pics now, so the phone is not for high quality, but it will be useful to be able to take one device on holiday, especially if it's also got the maps on. And the main subject of my photography now is a recently fallen rider in a cold stream - which doesn't really require a Hassleblad!