Adventure Bike Rider Forum

As I've retired early I now have the time to research and plan these trips for myself and a few friends so I hope you may also find some of the info useful; the numbers on GPX files are the hours riding without stops and the distance covered, perhaps should say that we are about to do this trip in June 2018, so would be grateful for any comments or info before leaving, cheers:
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This route is offroad or onroad?

Mostly on mountainous twisty roads, although it does include the Bardenas Reales Desert and the Smugglers Trial. We are all in our 50’s with very little real off road experience, and on large adventure bikes; as your company runs off road tours in northern Spain I would appreciate any comments or information you may have regarding the routes, thanks.

to be continued....

We did Bardenes Reales and Smugglers trail/Civis trail 2up on 1200gs on tourance tyres without a problem, there was a bit of snow and mud on smugglers but nothing to worry about.

As someone who has done the Picos and Pyrenees recently I'll tell you now, in a group you won't manage to do 270/280 mile days. The day you're doing the N260 to Sort is too much, far too much as is the day your heading up from Jaca. Also, the N260 is a dream but there are lots of roads around it that are usually deserted, try the 4 figure numbers, they are great.

Riano is a dump btw, much better heading for Potes and taking the N621 towards Portilla de la Riena...oh my way a stretch of road that is.

Out of Jaca I'd head West instead of East to Sigues then the 137 north takes you in to France but ti's fantastic, not the fastest of roads but usually empty, it then splits to either stay on the 137 or take the 140. Once in France the roads change markably ...read rubbish and narrow, you can then loop back East towards the Cul de Tourmalet and various other Cols

Scratch what I said about the 621, I see you have it in another route,

RanG thanks for all the advice; I should say that we are only a group of three and these are my preferred routes for each day, I have alternative shorter routes planned and will likely use when needed; also at Sort we can have a day off the bikes if required, also if feeling jaded on the final day can drive directly to Santander after spending another day off the bikes in Ribadesella as our return ferry is 9:00pm; having said that I will look at your suggestions with a view to using, so once again many thanks.

Here are the actual days I'm planning to ride, these I don't feel are excessive but please let me know if you think they are to long in terms of mileage and hours riding:
Day 1 - Leon - 4.00 - 160
Day 2 - Vitoria Gasteiz - 6.45 - 230
Day 3 - Zaragoza - 6.30 - 175
Day 4 - Sort - 6.30 - 235
Day 5 - Sort - 6.00 - 170
Day 6 - Jaca - 7.15 - 220
Day 7 - Pamplona - 5.45 - 180
Day 8 - Potes - 6.30 - 230
Day 9 - Ribadesella - 6.30 - 200
Day 10 - Santander - 7.15 - 240
Anyone requiring these days let me know and I'll put them up.

Tonibe63 thanks for your advice, I am a complete off road novice on the very heavy Super Tenere and worried that the Smugglers Trail may be to much for me, on a scale of 1-10 how difficult did you find it please?