OLd bike new tyres?

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captinktm wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:15 pm
garyboy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:25 pm Never 'erd of it
it's just that modern tyres have better compounds of rubber
Old tyres were shite
Old tyres? what like the Dunlop Sports max ....shite? kept my RI's on the road and track without any electric ery .
no .. of course not .. the british tyres were great .. its the old bridgestones etc on the first jap bikes, mostly I mean ...
but I don't believe electronics are involved at all. !!
perhaps I am wrong though ... this modden new fanggled stuff is just amazing 8-)
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ps .. the only thing I can think (I am not a tyre expert but have had my fair share of rubber over the last few decades.. well half a century actually :oops: ) .. is that they input a design criterion for rapid flux of off/on abs?
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ps .. your vid of tyre fitting was brill :)
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garyboy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:30 pm ps .. the only thing I can think (I am not a tyre expert but have had my fair share of rubber over the last few decades.. well half a century actually :oops: ) .. is that they input a design criterion for rapid flux of off/on abs?
I guess that is what the guy was on about. It on my kindle so I will try and paste it on here. But I would have thought that they would have to design tyres with electronic's in mind as the bike will react completely different. I guess we are talking about sports bikes here, oh and the crazy 160 bhp adv bikes.
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thanks cap'n .. should be interesting 8-)
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Back in the seventies we had what was regarded as THE tyre to have: TT100. It was called that for a reason. Lapping the TT at 100 miles an hour.

Nowadays the lap speed is 132 miles an hour. Yes bikes got faster, technology kicked in, but tyres do their bit too, a 32% improvement.

I guess compounds and carcase have advanced hugely.
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92kk k100lt 193214 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:33 pm Back in the seventies we had what was regarded as THE tyre to have: TT100. It was called that for a reason. Lapping the TT at 100 miles an hour.

Nowadays the lap speed is 132 miles an hour. Yes bikes got faster, technology kicked in, but tyres do their bit too, a 32% improvement.

I guess compounds and carcase have advanced hugely.
100 mph, 132mph, if your tyres aren't gripping you are going no where. Rubber compounds have improved hugely since the Square treaded Avon Safety Milage, made in original sixties rubber ( still available , but in modern rubber) or any of the early Bridgestone stuff. You know the hard plastic electric plugs are made of ..... imagine tyres pretty much like that. When a BSA bantam did 55 , and a Bonnie made 43 bhp it wasn't too bad, you wouldn't get to end of the road on a modern bike with old tyres.
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I do notice some of the bike manufacturers still provide a poor choice of tyre with new bikes though being mainly hard with poor overall grip.
As to electronic monitoring of tyres ,apart from tyre pressure sensors which are really an unimportant farkle I haven’t seen anything else.
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Andi_Archer wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:15 am I do notice some of the bike manufacturers still provide a poor choice of tyre with new bikes though being mainly hard with poor overall grip.
As to electronic monitoring of tyres ,apart from tyre pressure sensors which are really an unimportant farkle I haven’t seen anything else.
What is traction control if not an electronic tyre monitoring aid? But that's not what the guy was on about, it was just the different things they have to think about at the top end of tyre development.
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steve the grease wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:46 pm
92kk k100lt 193214 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:33 pm Back in the seventies we had what was regarded as THE tyre to have: TT100. It was called that for a reason. Lapping the TT at 100 miles an hour.

Nowadays the lap speed is 132 miles an hour. Yes bikes got faster, technology kicked in, but tyres do their bit too, a 32% improvement.

I guess compounds and carcase have advanced hugely.
100 mph, 132mph, if your tyres aren't gripping you are going no where. Rubber compounds have improved hugely since the Square treaded Avon Safety Milage, made in original sixties rubber ( still available , but in modern rubber) or any of the early Bridgestone stuff. You know the hard plastic electric plugs are made of ..... imagine tyres pretty much like that. When a BSA bantam did 55 , and a Bonnie made 43 bhp it wasn't too bad, you wouldn't get to end of the road on a modern bike with old tyres.
You mean Bakelite, that was pretty much what I reckoned Bridgestone tyres were made of back in the day ...

Meanwhile the TT100 was the dog's b******s but that last one I bought - back in 1979 - set me back about £80, so no moaning about the price of TKC's please ... :D

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