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Sarn Helen
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:22 pm
by Kendo
Hi All,
Me and a few mates are planning a bimble out to wales on Monday (Subject to SWMBO permission!). The route is one i found that Alun suggested in an earlier post :-
http://rideplanner.harley-davidson.com/ ... cale=en_US
Anyway it ends at Sarn Helen and we were wandering if anyone has been along that route recently? Also would it be 'Doable' on road tyres or will it be a bit knarley?
Any advice welcome.
Cheers
Steve
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:10 pm
by Alun
It's doable on road tyres but you're more likely to end up sending the bike home in a few boxes with DHL.
We've nothing to compare with Sarn Helen around Stratford. If you want to do the route with a smile on your face rather than clenching your arse then TKC's are a minimum and I'd probably not want to do it on anything bigger than an XT660. That's not to say you can't do it on a bigger bike, it's just that the fun factor goes up the smaller the bike on a route like this.
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:25 pm
by Kendo
Would be on our 800's! Is there an 'end' that is fairly easy so we can have a little bit of fun then turn round and come back?
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:57 pm
by dragonwheels
Best if you start on the Ystradfelte/Heol Senny road that way you can run up 2 directions for a bit before you turn round - and you will have to on 800's unless you're pretty handy and running knobblies.
There's a roman road out of nearby Trecastle that runs toowards Llandovery that's a bit more palatable and traversable on big trailies - but again, especially if it's been wet you'll need really good tyres.
If you just fancy buggering around on some fire roads you can access from the coelbren end of Sarn helen a few miles that are legal but don't go anywhere. Msg me for details as I'd rather not advertise their presence too widely. We have Waymarked maps of lanes in the Touratech shop - open Mon-Sat. If you want a guide - I can probably sort as well
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:43 pm
by redbikejohn
remember the only part that is 100% legal and ok to ride is the lower section (marked with red crosses on the OS map). its also subject to a TRO for most of the year and i think it (the open season)runs out at the end of August.
This is the bit from Dyffren Cellwyn (the upper part) down to Aberdulias in the south.
The rest of it (to the North) is still used by some, but you might get pulled and charged for illegal riding as some regard this part as a restricted byway. The TRF got some memeber off of a charge recently but it was dropped withouth going to court so no president was set. if you fancy taking a chance then ride it, but in my mind i wouldn't, which is why i no longer organise trips to that area.
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:01 pm
by jasext
There is quite a few pics here of the terrain ,lots of locals ride it regular from Colbren up ,never had any issues
http://www.vdsr.co.uk/index.php?topic=6608.0
Dont attempt it if your on road tyres and if it's been raining ,the rocks are very slippery and you could dmage your bike quite badly
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:55 pm
by Kendo
Well we are going tomorrow so dragonwheels, is TT open tomorrow for us to get a map/guide?
Cheers
Steve
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:10 pm
by scrambled eggs
they are all up at dawn to dusk enduro
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:05 pm
by Kendo
Re: Sarn Helen
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:42 pm
by Bongoman
Do you have this route on a gpx file.
cheers
Damon