Perhaps someone at Honda thought 'I know, let's make a bike that's pretty close to the ones that are selling all the big numbers but make it just different enough to attract some of those potential buyers and tap into that market', it's not a bad idea if you want to sell bikes :whistle: I think tha...

scutty wrote: I am certain I take my 690 more off road than you take your NC750!

show me

I'm pretty sure it has the same Honda Jazz car 1/2 engine as the 750x if so, the mpg is very good I can manage 80 mpg from my 700x . Not bad eh (thumbs) yeah, looks to me it's gonna be very similar engine which I love. That low rev torque diesel character is awesome. I am a little bit disappointed ...

Not many places and even fewer riders going there - lets be fair 99.9999% of potential AT customers will never get to those places. I think you're wrong, nobody is gonna buy relatively expensive motorcycle just to show off. AT is clearly suited for at least 50/50 road/off-road with tubed tyres, gro...

johnnyboxer wrote:How much is the AT or is it guesswork at present???

we have all important specs already, don't we?

http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/rang ... tions.html

I have just canceled my yamaha xt660z tenere order and put deposit on new Africa Twin, manual version of course. I should get it in October according to dealer. It maybe the perfect adventure bike for me although I wish it was 15 kg lighter. I have to say it looks beautiful and classy, nothing today...

Mike54 wrote:

Paul_XRV750 wrote:The new AT has pretty much the same specs as the KTM990 Adv. Both just under 1000cc,
both about 95bhp and 72 lbft torque, similar sized fuel tanks, same sized wheels/tyres

The difference will be HOW the weight is carried though

the difference is reliability.

I have fitted some accessories on mmy bike to be prepared

I see v-strom 650 can do what KTM can:


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but how bout reliability? I heard opinions like that: Splitting gas tank shells, cheap chains, bad wheel bearings, bikes that won't start, leaky gaskets, lack of warranty extension on known problems and an apathetic attitude on the part of the company. I just tested F800 GS and I really like it, but...