Simon many thanks again, I have changed changed the route following your advice, Cheers.

''raging torrents'' dreaded river crossing'' :shock: Thanks people! After all the advice we will be travelling out and down the C-462 then Smuggler's route back into Sort, the day is 6:00 hrs on the bike & 170 miles when coming off the C-462 at Tuxient and then along the C-563. Another route cou...

Tonibe63, thank you very much for this info although can't be for us this year as one of our must do roads for this trip is the C-462 which we are doing on the same day as the Smugglers route, but maybe next year!

Thx bikenav, yes is possible to change direction which is currently coming into Sort from Andorra direction,, looking at YouTube clips I think that is descending (confirmation needed please), so I will change the direction, thank you again. Ps I'm starting to s#!€ myself already about the river cros...

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RandG many thanks again, the online version shows roads with green borders (above) do you think these are the same or is it just that the paper maps a better option? Thx Mark

Simon thanks so much for all this information will now spend some time adding your suggestions, seems very cheeky but if you have any road numbers I would find that useful; on the point of why staying in Sort it was really to do the Smugglers trail and have a trip into Andorra, but is by no means se...

Thx so much Simon_100 great info you can’t beat local knowledge; in Sort we are booked into the Hotel Florido the thinking being its was big enough to stay in for a couple of nights and was hoping that the few bars in Sort could provide a few hours entertainment, we need to be based near Sort but co...

Thx RandG and I agree, so have now changed day 8 it's now 5.45 - 180; we are staying in the Gran Hotel de Jaca, have you stayed there or have any info?
Cheers

Thx Tonibe63,
I'm feeling reassured now and think I can cope with a 1/10; is only a day off if we are absolutely Knackered, we always have a rest day planned in but as yet have never not carried on riding!!
Thx again Sir

RanG thanks for all the advice; I should say that we are only a group of three and these are my preferred routes for each day, I have alternative shorter routes planned and will likely use when needed; also at Sort we can have a day off the bikes if required, also if feeling jaded on the final day c...