Adventure Bike Rider

Hi, at the HU meeting I had a conversation with a chap about converting the XT600 from carbs to fuel injection, sadly I cannot find the information he was talking about and cannot remember the guys name etc

So a polite enquiry if you are that guy or know about anyone converting the XT600e from a carb to fuel injection please be in touch.
Cheers

why ever would you want to?

That was my question too???

Just because you can doesn't mean that you should.

But partly out of interest and I don't have any nostalgic view of carbs, I've had nothing but issues with both our bikes and their carbs. And almost all new modern bikes have fuel injection.

I'm just interested and who knows, if nothing else if it isn't to costly and it improves mpg significantly , we run two bikes and fuel just keep going up in price.

Wouldn't you need to replace your big plastic tanks for metal ones?

no alot of fuel injected bikes have plastic tanks ..i think you need to get your xt's set up properly my xt600e does 65/70 to the gallon and is ultra reliable .i think fuel/inj would be more trouble than its worth on an old bike like that sell them and get the 660 with fuel/inj

the good thing about the xt600 is easy to work on and loads of cheap spare parts

cheers

Dave

CRAIGREVO wrote:


Craig hello mate, I trust you and the family are well.

I don't know about the tanks, why do you think I would have too, some fuel injected bikes have plastic tanks.

Bianchi wrote:


Thanks for that mate, you are certainly getting more mpg than us by about 5 to 10 mpg Jane says we average 58 mpg.

We have invested too much time, money etc to sell the XT's and an XTZ660 would be worse for Jane off road as it's even heavier.

I do need to spend some time and become acquainted with the carbs before I spend any cash on fuel injection or up grades etc. as money doesn't go very far these days.

At the very least they need a good clean/soak in something to make sure there's no crap any where, before I start tinkering with settings, jets etc, all of a bit an unknown for me.

But as always thanks for the comments.

The pictures of your trip looked good by the way.

There's a lot to modern injection systems, which usually incorporate the rest of the engine management too (ignition etc). I'd think the only way you could do this would be to cannibalise a later fuel-injected model, but even then it would be very complicated, and difficult to get to run correctly.
I remember the old Wal Phillips "Fuel Injector" from way back....but that was more of a floatless carb, really!

it can be done, but it is not worth it. i heard lads say that it would cost around £1000 to do it

oh yes it can be done , just watched a video on youtube ,look up a company called mega squirt fuel injection on the net

what about insurance?? not sure how they'd look upon it mate??? I would of thought it would of been more hassle than it was worth, personally i'd get ya carbs stripped rebuilt or do it yourself if you can then invest in some dyno time and get them set up perfectly to perhaps a freer flow filter. theres no reason a carbed bike running bang on cant return fuel figures of an inj motor

my 1997 XT600E ran as sweet as a nut with 50+mpg.

knackered inlet carb rubbers are a very common problem, do you get any coughing and banging?

do you have an aftermarket exhaust? oem one is rubbish and very restricting, but if the bike was set up for it and then you put an open can on it it may need rejetting. (some do some dont, mine didnt when i put a lazer pro'duro on it)

is your second carb opening up at the right time? they dont both work at the same time. (if you know where the second carb comes in, you can mark the throttle and get 80+mpg just using the first carb. slowly.)

Thanks for your comments guys.

When we came back from Morocco I fitted K&N air filters and bought Quill exhausts. I then took both bikes to a local mechanic who has dyno machine (ex motocross racer), who makes his living a a mechanic and attending tack days setting up 'sports' race bikes.

Supposedly he set them up and I had then to him a total of three times each, basically the bikes run well when you are giving it some. But general riding, easy at low revs, about 3000 revs neither of them runs sweet, Jane's is worse than mine. Popping and banging off the throttle, down hill in particular and both will cut out when coming to a stop or changing down if you don't keep a bit of revs on. Again Jane's is worse than mine.

Basically I think I'm just avoiding taking the carbs off, cleaning and learning how to set them up. What was interesting was the guy at the HU meeting singing the praises of the benefits of swapping to Fuel injected.

Since I posted l've found a couple of American YouTube videos showing complete strip down and cleaning of carbs, not XT's but enough for me to be a bit more confident in doing it. Do's and don't pit falls etc

I have a workshop manual on disc so hopefully that will give me the original settings if I need to undo what the Dyno man did if a good clean doesn't sort it.

Thanks again guys, but it would still be interesting to find out just what someone has done swapping to fuel injected.
Cheers Steve

HI there all factory built motorcycles with fuel inj will run a fuel rail an injector/s also induction is different to carb fed bikes and also the wiring harness and ecu would be different to say the least ,,if you look at an older carb fed bonnie to an injection model they look the same but are totally different under the body work also you would prob need a ambient air temp sensor and poss lamba senser along with the ecu to moniter everything and control the injection system and the way it starts and runs hope this helpss cheers