Adventure Bike Rider

So when is a thread blatant advertising for financial gain and when is it posting info as you believe fellow ABR’s will be genuinely interested?
I realise this might come across as sour grapes from my part for getting a thread deleted and a ‘no advertising’ message from the mods (I was doing a bit of market research into whether it would be feasible to run a certain type of paying event.

However since someone else is quite openly plugging his own forthcoming event I thought I’d ask the question – how can one thread survive and another not?

Should there not be a section on the forum where people or businesses can post information, offers etc. as long as the threads relate to adventure riding?

This is not the first time this has been asked as I’ve seen the threads on here. In no way am I trying to get the other thread removed, but is there a two tier system in place or have the mods become more relaxed of late?

personally ive got nothing against a member advertising something relevant for financial gain as long as its not spam. folks already put their ebay auctions on here so i dont see much difference?
i thought there was a "for sale/services offered" thread anyway?

the 'for sale' section is for private items.

ABR mag is then competing with itself. Their line (no unreasonably) is that if you're charging money you should pay for an ad. in ABR.

How comes a certain author can advertises his books etc but not contribute to normal forum activities?

Just my observation.....

from my part, if i had a possitive responce to the thread it would have led to a large add in the mag, but i realy wasn't sure people would go for. i dropped the idea in the end .... but got the hump a little this week when others are plugging away.

There are various examples of this. Nathans book, Austins event etc. All it proves is that mods / owners are human and may miss things.

But I have sympathy with RBJ to be honest. I can't see that asking a simple question is advertising, it's just asking to see if something might be viable then go from there..

This is a line from the forum rules.

If a post is deemed as an 'advert' it'll be deleted. There can be a fine line between what's information and what's an advert but generally speaking its obvious where the intent lies.

I try to moderate within these guidelines.

When Nathan started off from Sydney to ride to the UK I don't think he had book "riches" in mind.
Likewise with Austin Vince and Lois of course.

I don't know the circumstances of your post RBJ, maybe you should have a chat with Alun re promotion, he is very approachable.

I wasn't referring to Nathan as the author. It was Sam Manicom I was thinking of. We only see him when he's promoting the sales of his books.

well i wasn't going to use names but as others have...... it was Vince's film thread that i thought was pretty blatant. if it was a free event then fine, but i seem to remember from the past that these things cost about £60 a ticket?

redbikejohn wrote:


Have you seen what he charges for the PYREKNEESUP???

Careful Mark, don't want to get your post deleted lol

I did wonder if the remark was referring to me, though I could understand it if it was. I'm not as active on here as I could be. I guess I'm a serial lurker, on here most nights, just not posting because I like to read instead. As for the issue of advertising, I imagine it's a tough one for the mods, many shades of grey. Personally I think people would want to know about Austin's event, or any other event for that matter, so it's a public service in a way, even if you could class it as advertising. At the end of the day I think we're all sensible enough to know the difference between taking the piss and spreading the word about something relevant to the people who visit the site.

As an aside, I've just stripped my bike down and despite coming all that way, the only engine parts she needs are piston rings and a cam chain, which I didn't think too bad given how far she came. Parts arriving from Oz tomorrow, should have her rebuilt next week. Hope for better weather.

The rules are good, and if you ever look at Moneysavingexpert, or DIYNot forums, there is plenty of 'i don't work for them but' adverts that get through.

In my humble opinion, if the posters business is based in or around the 'trade' of Biking, then a post about their work is advertising. BUT how much harm this does to the value or monetary input of the magazine is not an issue. Not even sctratching the surface.
Magazine advertising (and I have booked a few ads in other jobs), IS by definition, bloody expensive when you do not have a business with good profits and regular £££'s turn over. The likes of Mr Vince and Mr Manicom are scratching a small living from their passion and 'work' and may not advertise at all in mags due to the costs.
From experience, once you start, there is no point stopping as a regular ad in 5-6 issues might start to bring in recognition and custom, but one ad once in a while will have little impact.

Though I think this forum is great, intresting,funny and informative give a little take a little will make it survive and the fact that ANY subject posted only stays on the front page for a day....... with due respect to the readers, members and ABR, that ain't gonna change the world.PS here is my invention want one ??????

fair play to the two of you! i moan about adds and you post two adds in the thread (one a bit more blatant than the other though).

nice invention by the way - easy to copy with a welder now i've seen it on a public forum