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How much power.. Do you really need???????????
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75373

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I sold an RF900 with 125 BHP and got a Vara.

The Vara has plenty of power for me, but then I'm not really a 'ring its neck' kind of rider, did it a few times on the RF and shat myself each time.

I don't think I'd like any less than the Vara though, but then I prefer big bikes. (mens bikes )
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75429

And here's me with 125cc and 15bhp thinking I'm fine, well maybe 5bhp more so she'll go up hills a bit faster. I'm left wondering why you need all the power when I can sit at 65-70 with a bike loaded up with all my gear and my mum's floor length lined curtains. But then I came from cycle-touring so anything is an improvement on pedalling.
Happiness has 125cc

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75431

tough one ...fast in line fours i used to love leave me cold ..

brrrrrr brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brake brake
blip blip blip feck im gonna die repeat till bored or scared or both
.. im a renagade of a lot of different bikes .. and so are most of us

i think what has affected me the most in the past few years is a change of attitude
when i sold me off roaders after a big off .. that was it so i thought
but i missed them and it left a void .. a gap

now im wobbling about on a gangly preying mantis with weird tyres that started with shit standard gearing .. that in truth is a bit too tall for me off raod im taking in places i know i shouldnt cos im not a great talent but cant help meself

..it vibrates .. its100hp short of other bikes ive had and chucks out 48bhp but it gives it me all in a big dollop of torque up to 70 mph
the truth is it has a lot of faults ..on paper it falls well short of lots of other bikes ive had andis slaughtered on paper and on the road by the new breed all of which ive ridden [im not a osterich ]
..no patronising at all i can fully understand why somnon e couldnt get on with it
but the garage door opens .. and i just want to ride it out of a choice of four .. to me it feels great

so what do i swap it for ?? a multi strada .... sorry no deal ..one trick ponys are off my menu impressed and dissaponted

.. i cant quatify it justify it even gettin on and off it is a pain in the ass ar times [you get thegate mate ] ..on paper its a nothing
.. but its more than enough for me..it just makes me smile every mile

makes me feel good everytime i ride it even with its wheezy top end and shit road tyres .. thats a tough ask for any bike ..
..now wheres me map
whats the wether forcast ..wheres me map
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75442

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Gas_Up_Lets_Go wrote:
It's not something I wonder about, I have a Tenere, so why would I!


Ahh, but you've done the single can/filter/PCV, so you've probably got a bit more than me

Of the nine bikes that have passed through our garage over (by a strange coincidence) the last nine years, the most powerful is Mrs Dash's 72bhp ER-6F. The most powerful I've owned is my 62bhp ZXR400, which I've not ridden for two years, most of which I've spent covering ~25k miles on a 46bhp Ténéré. You might infer from this that power hasn't been particularly important in my bike-buying decisions.

That said, I did have a brief go on a Morini Corsaro 1200 a few years back (~120bhp I think?), which was utterly hilarious. But bikes (and power levels) like that are moving out of the 'need' category into the 'want' category .

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75444

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dash wrote:
so you've probably got a bit more than me


Tis true. And feedback from our jaunt up to Skye last month suggests that the Filter/PCV/Can upgrade gives significatly more Uuumph over the stock bike (with a less lardy rider too) in normal traffic situations.

It still maxes out at the same point though, I think, as I don't really ride for speed. It's a journey after all (like life) and why would you want to reach the end quickly?
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75446

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I agree with Minkyhead, it's all about how it feels to open the garage door. I've just swapped 165BHP Blade for 48BHP Tenere. One of my mates thinks I'm mad and that once the novelty wheres off I'll be left pinning for more power. We'll see.... I am very happy with the Ten' its taken me places that the blade never could. I think getting out into the countryside is more rewarding than racing around, only getting fustrated with the all the slow traffic (that is actually going at the speed limit) in front of you. I feel i can go out in most weathers on the Ten' where I would only feel confident going for a blast on a warm dry day on the blade which is pretty daft seeing as we don't have that much dry warm weather in this country. I know power is addictive but less power seems more relaxing cos you can enjoy where you are instead of always speeding somewhere else...I may come back to wanting more power one day but I'm more than happy now! Part of the the great thing about being into bikes is the variety of different bikes out there.

Ok..... now I think it's time to take the long way to work!!!!
Yamaha XT660Z Tenere

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75447

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Ok..... now I think it's time to take the long way to work!!!! [/quote]

This is the point in bikes for me, on Tenere i leave earlier and take long ride to work , on way back stick to country lanes and enjoy ride on z1000 it was just get there as quick as i could country lanes were a pain which is the route i like to take so it had to go
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75477

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There's no right or wrong answer, you'll need to curb what you do on any bike at some point and do something different to get round it. Just choose the power you get on with and go with that. Anything else and you're not going to be happy.

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75576

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

I spent 10 years on silly stupid sports bikes then worked for an MV dealer when I got to play on even sillier bikes.

Eventually, i ended up on sub 50 bhp trialies and learnt to love what they could do. However, I still get that frustration and urge when I just wish I could open that throttle and feel warp speed...

End of the day, you can't have your cake and eat it...

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75582

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There is a simple answer to this.

Useable.

Useable power is the best, you can have any bike you want but can you, will you or do you use the power. And how often to suit your needs.

I couldve bought a Vara, loved my VFR750 V4 engine power and ended up buying a Alp700 over the 650 due to the usability differences.

I commute daily, dual carriageway mostly or back roads when I bother to get up in time. I ride 300 miles at the weekends, every other, riding as a cycle race escort where it's all quick getaways, cruise at 25, fast accelerate past obstacles etc.

I reckoned I used every ounce of power the bike had and maybe needed some more after 4 years on an Alp. Then I worked on a major cycle race where it was total balls out riding, 2up and with rolling road closures......err, nope, I hadn't begun to use all the bikes power yet. I found loads of power, usability and 2up joy. Never found to be wanting, in fact the 2up tv crews on GS12 and FJ13's commented on how hard it was keeping up at times, sure they could just twist the throttle on a straight where there was one but on corners, normal roads etc....there wasn't anything in it.

I found my usability in the Alp700.

Would I take more if it was offered....sure, but in addition as a toy, not instead of what I have. One of the guys had a new BM1600 GT things with 6 cyl inline engine.......mmmmmm, loverly, growled so nicely when he passed me on the motorway. Wouldn't fancy pushing it back into my garage between 2 cars though.

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75583

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Used to have a TA650, first decent bike after passing my test and in fairness was a great bike for what I bought it for a the time. Had reasonable poke unless 2 up and then a bit sluggish.

Then got the KTM 950 and started doing more off road, lots more, but with decent rubber its still pretty damn quick on the road. I don't need (or want) any more power on the road, its fast enough.

However, when watching the MotoGP do have the urge to buy a track bike and go off and give it a good pasting somewhere a bit safer than the average country lane.

Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75644

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Tiger 1050 with full luggage for road touring + Arrow Race pipe & Factory Remap = 125bhp (stock is 115) plenty fast enough thank you very much.

CCM 604E (598cc and 53bhp) on 21"/18" Trail wheels. Maxxis Cross Enduro, just about light enough for general toomfoolery on the trails, yet still capable of 85mph if I was brave enough so still plenty fast enough thank you. Actually 70mph is about the most I see (very occasionally) on the road, 85mph is reserved for Rally Special Stages (also very occasionally) if can manage it!

With a change of tyres and front sprocket (16T instead of 15T) makes a good "all road" tourer, even if luggage is a bit of problem (makes you pack light though).

CCM604E on Supermoto (17") wheels (Maxxis Goldspeed Supermoto tyres), for hooligan tendancies, on the 16T front sprocket it's good for 100mph + (on private roads of course) even if it is a bit vibey

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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #75728

Jelly wrote:
I sold an RF900 with 125 BHP and got a Vara.

The Vara has plenty of power for me, but then I'm not really a 'ring its neck' kind of rider, did it a few times on the RF and shat myself each time.

I don't think I'd like any less than the Vara though, but then I prefer big bikes. (mens bikes )


I love the Shat myself bit.
I think I will keep the XT1200z and buy a XT660 tenere I have at the moment a DR650 but I have too kick that so it don't come out much.

Thanks for all the comments.
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #76256

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[quote="BIG BILL" post=75728]Jelly wrote:
I sold an RF900 with 125 BHP and got a Vara.

I think I will keep the XT1200z and buy a XT660 tenere I have at the moment a DR650 but I have too kick that so it don't come out much


BIG BILL


I've just been out today with the Manchester TRF, and they took me all over the peaks. I was by far the worst (most novice) rider and on (by far) the heaviest bike (XT660Z Tenere). But i rode everything they did although I struggled on the mud it was only because my tyres where wrong! The bike will go anywhere, and I'm amazed today by where it has taken me but the rider needs to be strong! Gimme a shout if you want a review on the 660 Ten.
Yamaha XT660Z Tenere
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Re: How much power.. Do you really need??????????? 2 years, 9 months ago #76283

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Big singles do it for me...can cruise at legal speeds...economical...reliable...ok off road...full of character that anything over a v twin cant give...what more do you need for adventure travel ?
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