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BMW F800 GS

Overall rating: 
 
7.6
As a Long Distance Tourer:
 
7.0
Off Road Capability:
 
7.0
Around Town:
 
8.0
Additional Equipment Availability:
 
8.0
Reliability:
 
8.0
Handling:
 
8.0
Engine:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
7.0
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Wee Jack Reviewed by Wee Jack
July 28, 2009

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I took a test ride on the BMW F800GS on Thursday 23rd July '09. I had the bike for over 2 hours and gave it a run over B roads , A roads , dual carrageways , motorways and town speed stuff.

I think most of the modern "adventure" style bikes are grossly overpowered for their intended purpose, BMW1200GS , KTM990 etc and I wish bike manufacturers would get back to basics and build a well designed adventure bike around 70-80 hp. So I had high hopes of liking the BMW.

So what did I like ..........

It's a very nice bike to approach for the first time , a very comfortable layout (apart from the BMW indicator switches) and quite a nice height for a shorty like me. I had asked for the no cost option low seat to be fitted taking the seat to a stated 850 mm. The bike feels very "planted" on the road , I think a lot of that may be down to the Bridgestone Battlewing tyres fitted to the test bike - it really should have had Trailwings or Pirelli Scorpions or the like if it claims to be a dual purpose bike as Battlewings are purely road tyres. There is ample power from the engine and it pulls strongly , I was often surprised to find myself in the 6th gear thanks to the dash indicator when really my head was telling me she had plenty of grunt left and another gear could be snicked. The test bike was fitted with an excellent touring screen , with not buffeting - other bike makers could learn a lot from BMW screen/fairing designers. The bike had an entertaining ride computer fitted (£123) option and there are hours of innocent fun to be had watching the "to go" tank range indicator changing in real time as you change speed / gear, but a little uncomfortable to see your range change from 120 miles to empty , to 45 miles to empty just by dropping a gear and accelerating for an overtake. I had a few interesting roundabouts and junctions at first trying to get used to the indicator switches , cancelling and trying to maintain a steady throttle while turning takes a bit of practice, but apart from that the throttle felt relatively smooth , for a twin with FI !!!.

What did I not like.........

There is the most annoying and in my opinion , badly designed , front brake master cylinder, it's on some sort of elaborate rubber mount and shakes around violently all the time , distractingly so !! It was bouncing around so much on the test bike , I was sure that air would end up going down the line !!!

The seat got uncomfortable after about an hour , I did have the optional low seat fitted , and noticed that there were also low peg mounts that could be used , so maybe both are meant to be used in conjunction.

The rear shocker has absolutely no guard to prevent it getting whacked by grit and stones if you were to venture on to a track - a huge omission in my opinion - most other dual purpose bikes a least have a bit of plastic fitted to keep the worst abuse away.

My lower legs got caked in dirt a minor issue I know but annoying for a all year commuter like me.

All in all - quite a nice bike. But not for me. It did not move me enough to be considered as a potential replacement for the KTM.

The basic cost for a non ABS version is going to £7200 ish in august and after heated grips, trip computer , mainstand and luggage rack are fitted it comes in around £7700. Then there would be rails for my touratech panniers and crashbars to be fitted, probably around another £500 . So we arrive at £8200 and for anyone wanting the ABS option - another £600 thankyou !!!

Review Information Motorcycles

Time owned 2 hrs
I liked User friendly
I Disliked BMW quirks
Would you buy again Yes
In one line Nice Bike
 
Adventure
 

KTM 990 Adventure

Overall rating: 
 
8.1
As a Long Distance Tourer:
 
8.0
Off Road Capability:
 
9.0
Around Town:
 
6.0
Additional Equipment Availability:
 
9.0
Reliability:
 
8.0
Handling:
 
9.0
Engine:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
8.0
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Wee Jack Reviewed by Wee Jack
June 12, 2009

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Last updated: June 12, 2009
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After 22 months and 16500 miles of KTM 990 Adventure ownership , I feel I am now qualified to comment on the "ownership experience" of the large Austrian. I arrived in adventurebikeland after 30 years of large sports tourers, Pan Europeans and K series BMWs, a whole raft of small capacity Japanese bikes and at one point a Harley Davidson 1200 sportster. I bought my first "adventure" bike , a 650 Honda Transalp , when I fancied something lighter and more economical than the Honda Pan European , but almost immediately missed the power of the Pan , not all the time , just two up and during those hurried overtakes we all do at some point !!. What the Transalp did do however , was hook me into the adventure bike "thing" !! I always struggle for words to describe the difference between a tourer and an adventure bike - it's that "thing" that makes you want to go down that side road , just because it's there , and makes you wonder where it leads. You don't do that on a traditional tourer for some reason , I would have passed the side road on the Pan as it ate the miles to my original destination. It's that "thing" that makes you seek out the back roads and less travelled routes , it's that "thing" the keeps you late for tea , because you've found something more interesting to look for. But, as I say, The Transalp just lacked a little oomph when you needed it. So a more powerful trailie was sought. It boiled down to a straight fight between the KTM 990 and the BMW1200GS. The BMW is a good bike , in fact a great bike, and I would have been happy to own it , I think , but the £2000 difference in cost for similar spec'd bikes and the general attitude of the BMW dealer , swung the deal in favour of the KTM.

So how has it been over the last year and ten months ? It's a fast, great handling,beautifully sounding bike with superb road presence. It's quite comfortable over distance , having covered John o Groats to land's End and back in two days and the only real ache was my right wrist (holding the throttle in a fixed position) , a Crampbuster throttle paddle thingy was purchased the day after completing the charity ride !!! I use my bikes all year round for commuting and it has been flawless. The general finsh of the bike has held up well to the two West of Scotland winters it has endured , just some very (and I mean VERY) slight corrosion on one or two spokes in the front wheel.

For a claimed overlander it does have a fairly limited fuel tank (19.5 litres /4.3 gallons) which gives a modest tank range at (the approx) 42MPG it returns. You can get as much as 47- 48MPG if you are on a long journey and behave , but for normal riding, commuting and exploring, it's around 42mpg.

The bike came with ABS and Hepco and Becker Gobi panniers as standard fit. The aftermarket equipment catalogue is fairly extensive and my bike is equiped with...... the matching H&B topbox , crashbars , Akraprovic cans (OOO! sweet music!!), tripmaster switch ( to transfer the dashboard functions to a switch on the handlebar), alarm and heated grips. All this is from the KTM catalogue , I also have a heavy duty sumpguard , radiator guard, rearbrake master cyclinder cover , large brake pedal and "fatfoot" on the side stand from the Rugged Roads catalogue........ www.ruggedroads.co.uk

The general reliability has been good , I can report only one "oh shit" with an early life failure of the fuel pump at 1600 miles. The back-up from KTM and their dealer was excellent on that occaision , the dealer came to pick-up my bike with a van , brought a loaner bike, and swapped them over , fixed it - no drama.

Servicing is required every 4500 miles, alternating between a small service at 4500 and a large service at 9000. the engine is quite fussy about it's bucket shim clearances and that takes time on the 9000 service.
Time means money of course !!! Small services around £200 - large services around £400.

What is good ............ power , sound, finish , road presence , comfort

What is not so good ...... fuel capacity, service costs.

I also like some of the "quirkyness" of the Austrian design , the angular look , and things like the twin saddle tanks with their twin filler caps always starts a converstion at filling stations.

The KTM 990 range has had a slight makeover for 2009 with some extra HP squeezed out the LC8 mill , fresh graphics and the "S" version ( higher suspension, no ABS, more offroad focused) now called the "R" version , but basically the same as the 2006 - 2008 models.

Would I have another ? Yes with no hesitation , but not yet , I love this one too much and have no reason to change not even for the few extra HP of the 2009 models.

Review Information Motorcycles

Time owned 22 months
I liked Power , sound , road presence
I Disliked Fuel capacity
Would you buy again Yes
In one line Everything I need in a motorcycle
 
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